Author: Dana Turnmire
Date: 10:07:28 03/01/01
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On March 01, 2001 at 10:59:35, James T. Walker wrote: >On March 01, 2001 at 01:03:33, Garry Evans wrote: > >> >>I am no longer a fan of Chessmaster, my testing say's that the new engine is >>much weaker than the previous version. I no longer see Brilliant Tal like >>attacks, or the ability to maintain the initiative which is a hallmark of >>Chessmaster's play, all that I see now is chessmaster losing, especially when >>playing against the tigers. I doubt if Chessmaster's Programmer even put any >>serious work into improving the engine. I believe they knew that just the >>mention of a new engine would bring more sales. I feel like a goffer and a Mark, >>they got me good with this one!! Well I guess from now on my chessmaster8000 >>will collect dust on my hardrive along with Mchess 8, Genius6, and Zarkov. > >Hello Gary, >How are you testing CM8K ? I'm using 2 Athlon 900 Thunderbirds with 256 M ram. >Here is my database/elo scores since December for Game/1 hour time controls: > > > Program Rating Games >1. Fritz 6B 2434 35 >2. CM8K(32M) 2421 25 >3. Chess Tiger 13.0 2404 56 >4. Fritz 6e 2393 120 >5. Junior 6.0 2373 81 >6. Shredder 5 2368 177 >7. Gambit Tiger 1.0 2366 56 >8. Hiarcs 7.32 2350 44 >9. * >10. * > >* (Purposely left off list) > >It's still a small database and must be taken with a grain of salt but there is >no indication that CM8K is "weak" compared to other programs. By the way in my >"Blitz" database with many more games CM8K is near the bottom but I believe that >CM8K is not a good blitz player. I will need many more games before I will know >much about the above programs/ratings but at the longer time controls it takes a >long time and of course I'm not the SSDF, I'm just one person. By the way >"Fritz 6B" was replaced by the latest Fritz 6e program and it's score is based >entirely on 35 games vs Shredder 5 which it won by 20.5-14.5. So it's not a >good indicator since it was against only one program. It also shows what you >can do to manipulate elo ratings if you want by playing many games against one >opponent which you do very good against. > >Jim Would this explain why CM8000 only rated 2600 on the CCR one hour test by Larry Kaufman and CM5000 rated 2648 on the same system? CM8000 has more positional knowledge at the expense of tactical strength? Chess master has always been near the top in blitz hasn't it?
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