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Subject: Re: Testposition - The Goose Chase

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 14:45:39 03/01/01

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On March 01, 2001 at 16:25:01, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]8/2b2pp1/K2p4/p4P2/P7/6P1/8/2k3B1 w - - 0 1
>
>  Troitzky 1923
>
>  Hm, a bishopending with black a pawn up. But white's king is much
>  better positioned. White's bishop is a real flyer while the black
>  one tries to take off again and again - but never makes it...
>  A flyer versus a goose and the hunt is just about to start.
>
>  Test: If your program is a flyer or a goose. The faster the better
>        But the evals should show that white is *winning*
>
>
>  Sune


This is Hiarcs 7.32 (all defualt settings) on a P4 1.5Ghz.  At first, I think it
sees that white is down a pawn, but quickly sees winning lines.  I am curious to
see, that with equal time, on equal hardware, if this would usually end in a
draw.  Here's my eval after a little over 10 minutes:

Hiarcs 7.32 - Wold,S
8/2b2pp1/K2p4/p4P2/P7/6P1/8/2k3B1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:

1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.Kxa5 d5
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00  1kN
1.Kb7 Bd8
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Bf6 3.Be3+ Kc2 4.Kxd6
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Kxd6 Kb3 4.Bd4 Kxa4 5.Bxg7
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  7kN
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kd2 3.Kxa5 Ke3 4.Kb5
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Bb6 Bxb6
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  17kN
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 d5 3.Kc5 Kb2 4.f6 gxf6 5.Kxd5
  µ  (-0.82)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  20kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Kxd6 Kb3 4.Bd4 Kxa4 5.Bxg7
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  28kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Bd4 Kb3 4.Bxg7 Kxa4 5.Kxd6
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  66kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Bd4 Kc2 3.Kc6 g6
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 9/17   00:00:00  160kN
1.Bd4 Kc2 2.Bxg7 d5 3.g4 Bd8 4.Kb5 Kd3 5.Kc5 Ke4
  =  (0.07)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:01  221kN
1.Bd4 Kc2 2.Bxg7 d5 3.g4 Bd8 4.Kb5 Kd3 5.Kc5 Ke4
  =  (0.07)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:01  324kN
1.Bd4 d5 2.Bxg7 Bxg3 3.Kxa5 Kc2 4.Kb5 Bf2 5.a5 d4 6.Kc4 d3
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 11/21   00:00:03  823kN
1.Bd4 d5
  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 12/26   00:00:06  1562kN
1.Bd4 d5 2.Bxg7 Bxg3 3.Bd4 Be1 4.Kb5 Kc2 5.Kc6 Kb3 6.Kxd5 Bg3 7.Bf6 Kxa4
  ³  (-0.68)   Depth: 12/26   00:00:09  2151kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Bd4 Kc2 3.Bxg7 Kb3 4.Kc6 Kxa4 5.Kd7 Bg5 6.Kxd6 Kb4 7.Kd5
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:12  2811kN
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 12/28   00:00:16  3774kN
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Ke8 Bh6 6.Kxf7 Kc2 7.Kxf6 Kb3 8.Ke6
Kxa4 9.Kxd6
  =  (-0.11)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:17  4138kN
1.f6 gxf6
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 14/28   00:00:30  7144kN, tb=4
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2 6.Ke8 Bg7 7.Kxf7 Bh8 8.Kg8
  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 14/28   00:00:34  8259kN, tb=4
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2 6.Ke8 Bg7 7.Kxf7 Bh8 8.Kg8
Kb3 9.Kxh8 Kxa4
  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 15/30   00:01:03  15016kN, tb=15
1.f6 gxf6
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 16/30   00:02:06  29927kN, tb=73
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2 6.Ke8 Bg7 7.Kxf7 Bh8 8.Kg8
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 16/30   00:02:18  32914kN, tb=74
1.f6 gxf6
  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 17/30   00:04:55  68729kN, tb=568
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2 6.Ke8 Bg7 7.Kxf7
  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 17/30   00:05:24  75599kN, tb=584
1.f6 gxf6
  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 18/30   00:12:53  176492kN, tb=1548

(Wold, Houston 01.03.2001)

This is Fritz 6e on the same machine. I cleared hash, and used all default
settings.  Fritz is much quicker to see winning lines, but it's search is over
2x faster and had a lot more tablebase hits.

Fritz 6 - Wold,S
8/2b2pp1/K2p4/p4P2/P7/6P1/8/2k3B1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6:

1.Bd4
  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1.Bd4 g6
  µ  (-1.00)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
1.Bd4 g6 2.g4
  µ  (-0.94)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
1.Bb6!
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
1.Bb6! Bxb6 2.Kxb6 d5 3.Kxa5
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 d5 3.Kxa5
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 4/7   00:00:00
1.Bb6!
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00  1kN
1.Bb6 Bxb6 2.Kxb6 Kc2 3.f6 gxf6 4.Kxa5
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kb7!
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 6/10   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kb7! Bd8 2.Kc6 Kd2 3.Kxd6 Bf6
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 6/11   00:00:00  3kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Kxd6 Kb3 4.Kd7
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  5kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Kxd6 Kb3 4.Kd7 Bf6
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 8/14   00:00:00  10kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Bb6 Bxb6 3.Kxb6 Kc2 4.Kxa5 d5 5.Kb4
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:00  30kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Bd4 Kb3 4.Bxg7 Kxa4 5.f6 Kb4
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 10/18   00:00:00  71kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Bd4 Kc2 3.Kc6
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 11/18   00:00:00  146kN
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Bd4
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  333kN
1.f6!
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  406kN
1.Bd4!
  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  461kN
1.Bd4! d5 2.Bxg7 Kc2 3.g4 Bd8 4.g5 Bxg5 5.Kxa5 Kd3
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  535kN
1.Bd4 d5 2.Bxg7 Kd2 3.Kb5 Bxg3 4.Kxa5 Bf2 5.Kb5 d4
  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:00  805kN
1.Bd4 d5 2.Bxg7 Kc2 3.g4 Bd8 4.Bh8 Kd3 5.g5 Bxg5
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:01  1304kN
1.Bd4--
  ³  (-0.62)   Depth: 15/22   00:00:02  2513kN, tb=4
1.Bd4--
  ³  (-0.62)   Depth: 15/23   00:00:02  2702kN, tb=4
1.f6!
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 15/23   00:00:02  2876kN, tb=4
1.f6! gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Ke8 Bh6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/23   00:00:03  3156kN, tb=4
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Ke8 Bh6
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 16/24   00:00:03  4012kN, tb=15
1.Kb7!
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 16/24   00:00:04  4583kN, tb=16
1.Kb7 Bd8 2.Kc6 Kc2 3.Bd4 Kb3 4.Bxg7 d5 5.Kb5 Kc2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:06  6851kN, tb=58
1.f6!
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:06  7277kN, tb=58
1.f6! gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 17/29   00:00:07  7745kN, tb=69
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 18/26   00:00:08  9541kN, tb=180
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 19/29   00:00:12  13379kN, tb=386
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kc2
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 20/32   00:00:21  22995kN, tb=851
1.f6!
  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 21/32   00:00:35  36539kN, tb=1523
1.f6! gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kd1
  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 21/33   00:00:40  41382kN, tb=1837
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kd1
  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 22/34   00:01:12  70081kN, tb=3989
1.f6 gxf6 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Kc8 Be7 4.Kd7 Bf8 5.Be3+ Kd1
  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 23/43   00:02:12  124820kN, tb=8063
1.f6 g5 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Bd4 Kc2 4.Kc8 Bxf6 5.Bxf6 Kb3
  ±  (1.25)   Depth: 24/40   00:04:05  228478kN, tb=18318
1.f6 g5 2.Kb7 Bd8 3.Bd4 Kc2 4.Kc8 Bxf6 5.Bxf6 Kb3
  ±  (1.28)   Depth: 25/46   00:08:34  473865kN, tb=44440

(Wold, Houston 01.03.2001)


About 4 minutes less, and it found a better line.

Slater Wold








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