Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 06:55:27 03/02/01
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On March 02, 2001 at 09:24:11, José Carlos wrote:
> Would DIEP have played the rest of the moves of the whole game exactly as Deep
>Blue did? If not, you cannot say DIEP would have won that game.
>
> José C.
I would at least tactical destroy Deep Blue easily.
Of course diep would have played better moves as Deep Blue.
Let's start with game 1, the many bad moves made by Deep Blue:
[Event "ICC u 120 0 05/03/97"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "1997.05.03"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Kasparov"]
[Black "Deep-Blue"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2795"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[GameID "862683128"]
[ECO "A07"]
[NIC "QP.09"]
[LongECO "Reti: King's Indian attack (Barcza system)"]
1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Bg4 3. b3 Nd7 4. Bb2 e6
5. Bg2 Ngf6 6. O-O c6 7. d3 Bd6 8. Nbd2 O-O
9. h3 Bh5 10. e3 h6 11. Qe1 Qa5 12. a3 Bc7
13. Nh4 g5 14. Nhf3 e5 15. e4 Rfe8 16. Nh2 Qb6
17. Qc1 a5 18. Re1 Bd6 19. Ndf1 dxe4 20. dxe4 Bc5
21. Ne3 Rad8 22. Nhf1 g4 23. hxg4 Nxg4 24. f3 Nxe3
25. Nxe3 Be7 26. Kh1 Bg5 27. Re2 a4 28. b4 f5
29. exf5 e4 30. f4 Bxe2 31. fxg5 Ne5 32. g6 Bf3
33. Bc3 Qb5 34. Qf1 Qxf1+ 35. Rxf1 h5 36. Kg1 Kf8
37. Bh3 b5 38. Kf2 Kg7 39. g4 Kh6 40. Rg1 hxg4
41. Bxg4 Bxg4 42. Nxg4+ Nxg4+ 43. Rxg4 Rd5 44. f6 Rd1
45. g7
{Black resigns} 1-0
After seeing this game all members of my chessclub that are playing
national league (about 1900 national and up, that's around 2100USCF
and up) are laughing so loud about deep blue that just like kasparov
they don't take deep blue serious anymore.
but to talk about the first game. How many programs do you know play
next pathetic moves:
10..h6?
11..Qa5?
12..Bc7?
13..g5?
22..g4?
5 bad moves? Que? I'm pretty sure i saw less blunders in games
at the IPCCC.
Seirawan also thinks move 33..Qb5 is real bad but i don't care
about that move as position is already lost by then.
Next games you clearly see Kasparov tries to give the computer a pawn
up or similar and then tries to win the endgame (bad idea btw cuz
kasparov is not so good in endgame compared to opening)
In game 2 kasparov clearly makes a huge number of mistakes in an opening
he has never played in his life. Also he only gets left because of
real bad moves with a position with just 1 open file and only 1 can
win then... ...unless you of course blunder.
But about the Kh1 move in game 2, this is a win for sure.
The played move Kf1 is a tactical blunder.
Now Deep Blue for sure wasn't tactical weak, but DIEP would have
won there with Kh1 because it sees the tactics!!
How many of your progs also find Kh1!!
Greetings,
Vincent
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