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Subject: Correction needed on number of moves played

Author: Jonathan Lee

Date: 10:52:59 03/02/01

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On March 01, 2001 at 14:29:47, Jonathan Lee wrote:

>On February 28, 2001 at 13:49:35, Jonathan Lee wrote:
>
>>I have found some comparisons of 6 or 7 games when the machine loses at least (4
>>GHZ or greater) against a human.
>>I hope this becomes an inspiration to the Computer Chess Club.
>>
>>1. There are no pawn or piece captures in the first ten moves.  I guess that
>>will be revised precise definition of a closed game.
>>2. Another critical factor is the opening.  With the exception of the Stonewall
>>Defense there are no common denominators in the closed openings.  The Stonewall
>>happened only twice.
>>   My observation is to find all opening libraries that have closed games and
>>look more closely.  (Preventing closed positions) or (the fewest number of
>>closed openings) as much as possible may be a high priority.
>>3. With the exception of one game the game ends in less than 50 moves.  The
>>computer cannot tackle the complex middle game, thus losing material.  The
>>computer tends to understand end games, thus drawing or winning games.
>>   The exception is Shirov versus Fritz on June 22, 2000; the game lasted 59
>>moves.  The last 10 to 15 moves were lightning quick coming from Shirov.

CORRECTION: MANY GAMES WERE RESIGNED BEFORE BEING MATED AND COULD HAVE LASTED
MORE THAN 50 MOVES OR 100 PLY.  Jonathan (106 message)

>>4. With the exception of one game the original queens are used. (This excludes
>>pawn promotion turned into queens.  What I mean is the original queens are a
>>much greater factor than passed pawns.)
>>   The exception is Kasparov versus Deeper Blue game one in 1997.
>>   Another possible exception: Leko versus Fritz had one passed pawn which was
>>something like a mate in 8.
>>Jonathan (101 message)
>5.  Of those 7 losses humans were white 5 times.  Of those 5 losses, 2 of them
>were the Stonewall Defense.
>    Obviously, the other 2 games is when human was black.
>6.  Of those 7 losses it was Fritz 4 times, Junior 2 times, and Deeper Blue
>once.
>    Of those 7 wins, one from Kasparov (Deeper Blue), two from Kramnik (Junior
>and Fritz), one from Leko (Fritz), one from Shirov (Fritz), one from Piket
>(Junior), and one from Alterman (Fritz).
>If you know since 1997, any games with a parallel processor (4 GHZ or greater)
>not mentioned that resulted with losses please show in this thread.
>Jonathan (102 message)



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