Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:52:02 03/02/01
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On March 02, 2001 at 09:55:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On March 02, 2001 at 09:24:11, José Carlos wrote: > >> Would DIEP have played the rest of the moves of the whole game exactly as Deep >>Blue did? If not, you cannot say DIEP would have won that game. >> >> José C. > >I would at least tactical destroy Deep Blue easily. Please....... > >Of course diep would have played better moves as Deep Blue. > >Let's start with game 1, the many bad moves made by Deep Blue: > >[Event "ICC u 120 0 05/03/97"] >[Site "Internet Chess Club"] >[Date "1997.05.03"] >[Round "-"] >[White "Kasparov"] >[Black "Deep-Blue"] >[Result "1-0"] >[WhiteElo "2795"] >[BlackElo "0"] >[GameID "862683128"] >[ECO "A07"] >[NIC "QP.09"] >[LongECO "Reti: King's Indian attack (Barcza system)"] > > 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Bg4 3. b3 Nd7 4. Bb2 e6 > 5. Bg2 Ngf6 6. O-O c6 7. d3 Bd6 8. Nbd2 O-O > 9. h3 Bh5 10. e3 h6 11. Qe1 Qa5 12. a3 Bc7 >13. Nh4 g5 14. Nhf3 e5 15. e4 Rfe8 16. Nh2 Qb6 >17. Qc1 a5 18. Re1 Bd6 19. Ndf1 dxe4 20. dxe4 Bc5 >21. Ne3 Rad8 22. Nhf1 g4 23. hxg4 Nxg4 24. f3 Nxe3 >25. Nxe3 Be7 26. Kh1 Bg5 27. Re2 a4 28. b4 f5 >29. exf5 e4 30. f4 Bxe2 31. fxg5 Ne5 32. g6 Bf3 >33. Bc3 Qb5 34. Qf1 Qxf1+ 35. Rxf1 h5 36. Kg1 Kf8 >37. Bh3 b5 38. Kf2 Kg7 39. g4 Kh6 40. Rg1 hxg4 >41. Bxg4 Bxg4 42. Nxg4+ Nxg4+ 43. Rxg4 Rd5 44. f6 Rd1 >45. g7 >{Black resigns} 1-0 > >After seeing this game all members of my chessclub that are playing >national league (about 1900 national and up, that's around 2100USCF >and up) are laughing so loud about deep blue that just like kasparov >they don't take deep blue serious anymore. > >but to talk about the first game. How many programs do you know play >next pathetic moves: > > 10..h6? > 11..Qa5? > 12..Bc7? > 13..g5? > 22..g4? > >5 bad moves? Que? I'm pretty sure i saw less blunders in games >at the IPCCC. > >Seirawan also thinks move 33..Qb5 is real bad but i don't care >about that move as position is already lost by then. > >Next games you clearly see Kasparov tries to give the computer a pawn >up or similar and then tries to win the endgame (bad idea btw cuz >kasparov is not so good in endgame compared to opening) > >In game 2 kasparov clearly makes a huge number of mistakes in an opening >he has never played in his life. Also he only gets left because of >real bad moves with a position with just 1 open file and only 1 can >win then... ...unless you of course blunder. > >But about the Kh1 move in game 2, this is a win for sure. >The played move Kf1 is a tactical blunder. > >Now Deep Blue for sure wasn't tactical weak, but DIEP would have >won there with Kh1 because it sees the tactics!! > >How many of your progs also find Kh1!! > >Greetings, >Vincent
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