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Subject: Re: GM Pablo Zarnicki - Shredder 5 0 - 1 on ICC 120 0 r

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 19:33:05 03/03/01

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On March 03, 2001 at 20:55:10, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On March 03, 2001 at 18:24:33, Martin Müller wrote:
>
>>At ICC with quite a few spectators S5 won clearly in some 40 moves.
>>It seems to be true what GM Dreev after the 80 moves win against S5 stated: S5
>>has GM strenght.
>
>Let me contribute translating Pablo's comments from spanish to english.
>There is a couple of comments about the game that might interest somebody.
>
>Regards,
>Miguel
>
>>garompon(GM) says: I dont know what will haepn !
>>garompon(GM) says: f6 y rf1 eran muy interesantes tambien
>
>f6 and Rf1 were very interesting too.
>
>>garompon(GM) tells you: segun mis calculos, que perfectamente pueden ser malos,
>>creo qeu la maquina dara un jaque perpetuo, como te lo anticipe al
>>empezr......si falla sera mate jeje
>
>According to my calculation -that can perfectly be bad- I think that the machine
>will give a perpetual, as I anticipated at the beginning... if it fails it will
>be checkmate, hehe.
>
>>garompon(GM) says: que opina gm smurskie?
>
>What's gm smurkie's opinion?
>
>>garompon(GM) kibitzes: hi to all!! Thx for watch: I will start my grupal lessons
>>those days. Please finger me for more info and message me .Thx :)
>>say mate in 10
>>(told garompon)
>>garompon(GM) tells you: jeje
>
>hehe
>
>>garompon(GM) tells you: espero que eso sea opinion de gm smurskie y no del compu
>
>I hope that's gm smurskie's opinion and not the computer's hehe
>
>>jeje
>>say el compo m9+ (:-))
>>(told garompon)
>>garompon(GM) tells you: yo calcule todas las posibilidades :9 pero estoy viejo y
>>puedo fallar hehe
>
>I calculated all the possibilities :9 but I am old and I can fail hehe
>
>>garompon(GM) says: I missed sometighn I will lose
>>garompon(GM) says: mate forzado
>
>forced checkmate
>
>>garompon(GM) says: como lo suponia fallo mi calculo, siempre algo se escapa con
>>compus
>
>As I supposed, my calculation failed. There is always something that escapes
>when facing computers.
>
>>garompon(GM) says: pero jugue muy arriesgado, a ganar como a ti te gusta
>
>But I played risky, to win, as you like.
>
>>{Game 105 (garompon vs. DaroohaLight) garompon resigns} 0-1
>>White resigns
>>Standard rating adjustment: 2664 --> 2675
>>garompon(GM) says: buen juego, no puedo quejarme
>
>Good game, I can't complain.
>
>>garompon(GM) says: a pesar de perder estoy conforme y contento con mi juego y el
>>espectaculo
>
>Despite losing, I am happy with my game and the spectacle.
>
>>say que pensas del campion del mundo de los computadores, Shredder 5?
>>(told garompon)
>
>What do you think about the Computer World Champion, Shredder 5?
>
>>garompon(GM) tells you: es este quejugo conmigo?
>
>Is the one that played against me?
>
>>say SI
>
>Yes.
>
>>(told garompon)
>>say Shredder 5 es el primeiro entre los programmas
>>(told garompon)
>>garompon(GM) tells you: este que jugo conmigo?
>>say que fue tu inpression del juego de S5?
>>(told garompon)
>
>What was your impression about S5?
>
>>garompon(GM) tells you: claro que juega bien, pero igual tuve chances porque
>>todas las maquinas son materialistas, y cuando ella comio el falco dama, yo
>>quede muy bien.....con Tf1 en lugar de fxe6 me gusta mucho mis chances
>>garompon(GM) says: entiendes lo que digo?
>
>Of course it plays well, but anyway, I had chances because all the machines are
>materialistic, and when she [NOTE from the translator, in spanish computer
>is "she"] ate the queen side, I ended up very well. With Rf1 rather than fxe6
>I like very much my chances. Do you understand what I mean?

I disagree.

The game only proves that GM pablo Zarnicki is materialistic.

If he liked his chances with Rf1 then I do not understand the reason that he let
the machine to get something that he believed to be a perpetual check.

The only explanation that I can find is that the GM believed that the move Rf1
is clearly better for black.

I also believe that black is better after Rf1 and I think that the GM did not
play well.

I expect GM's to see forced mate with queen and rook when they use more than 10
minutes to calculate.

I expect GM's to suspect with probablity of more than 50% that there is a forced
mate even before proving all the lines.

Uri



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