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Subject: Re: Testposition - The Giant King

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 02:16:19 03/04/01

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On March 03, 2001 at 16:37:42, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]4kr2/5p1K/3p1Q2/1p4P1/4P3/1PP5/7b/8 w - - 0 1
>
>  Reti, 1928
[..]
>  Test: This is a win for white. The solution is further down.
>        Warning: This one might be difficult for your program...

Yace, nullmove disabled:

  20473459  2:03.2   0.17 12.  1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 Bxe5 5.bxc4
                               Bxf6+ 6.gxf6 Kd7 7.Kxf8 Ke6 8.Kg7 {0}
  38225483  3:48.3   0.00 13t  1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 Bxe5 5.bxc4
                               Bh2 6.Kh6 Be5 7.Kg7 {151}
  69118281  6:55.0   0.01 13t+ 1.g6 Be5 2.Qxe5+ dxe5 3.g7 Ke7 4.gxf8=Q+ Kxf8
                               5.c4 Ke8 6.cxb5 Kd8 7.Kh6 Kc7 8.b6+ Kxb6 9.b4
                               Kc7 10.Kh7 Kd6 11.Kh6 {HT} {0}
  74352394  7:27.1   0.02 13t  1.g6 Be5 2.Qxe5+ dxe5 3.g7 Ke7 4.gxf8=Q+ Kxf8
                               5.c4 bxc4 6.bxc4 f5 7.exf5 e4 8.c5 e3 9.c6 Ke7
                               10.Kg6 e2 11.f6+ Kd6 12.c7 Kxc7 13.f7H {HT} {0}
  77972416  7:49.4   0.02 13.  1.g6 Be5 2.Qxe5+ dxe5 3.g7 Ke7 4.gxf8=Q+ Kxf8
                               5.c4 bxc4 6.bxc4 f5 7.exf5 e4 8.c5 e3 9.c6 Ke7
                               10.Kg6 e2 11.f6+ Kd6 12.c7 Kxc7 13.f7 {HT} {0}
 177895699 17:42.1   0.00 14t  1.g6 Be5 2.Qxe5+ dxe5 3.g7 Ke7 4.gxf8=Q+ Kxf8
                               5.c4 bxc4 6.bxc4 f5 7.exf5 {EGTB} 7...e4! 8.c5!
                               e3 9.c6! Ke8 10.f6 e2 11.c7 {Not all positions
                               found in TB} {80}
 250054842 24:22.4   0.01 14t+ 1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 cxb3 5.exd6
                               Bf4 6.Qxf4 f5 7.gxf6 Rf7+ 8.Kg8 Rg7+ 9.fxg7 b2
                               10.d7+ Kxd7 11.Qd6+ Kxd6 {0}
 314642651 30:34.1   0.42 14++ 1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 cxb3 5.exd6
                               Kd7 6.g6 Ra8 7.gxf7 Be5 8.f8=Q Rxf8 {151}
 381274632 37:06.5   1.30 14t  1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 Bxe5 5.bxc4
                               Bxf6+ 6.gxf6 Rh8 7.Kxh8 Kd7 8.Kg8 d5 9.cxd5 Kd6
                               10.Kxf7 {160}
 414719880 40:22.1   1.30 14.  1.Kh6 Be5 2.Kg7 Bh2 3.c4 bxc4 4.e5 Bxe5 5.bxc4
                               Bxf6+ 6.gxf6 Rh8 7.Kxh8 Kd7 8.Kg8 d5 9.cxd5 Kd6
                               10.Kxf7 {160}

Doing the first moves on the board, I see a winning score soon. When undoing the
moves, Yace wants to play 1...Rg8, for which i did not get a very high score.
The mate threat is gone, but the material balance keeps the same, even after
doing some of the moves. So I cannot find a forced win here.

after 1. Kh6 Rg8:

   6709352  45.173   2.61 11t  2.Kh5 Be5 3.Qf1 Bxc3 4.Qxb5+ Ke7H 5.Qb7+H Ke6H
                               6.b4H Be5H 7.Qd5+H Ke7H 8.b5H Rh8+H {HT} {231}
   7963343  53.785   2.61 11.  2.Kh5 Be5 3.Qf1 Bxc3 4.Qxb5+ Ke7 5.Qb7+ Ke6
                               6.b4 Be5 7.Qd5+ Ke7 8.b5 Rh8+ {HT} {231}
  34276722  3:44.7   2.50 12t  2.Kh5 Be5 3.Qf1 Bxc3 4.Qxb5+ Ke7 5.b4 Be5 6.Qf1
                               Rh8+ 7.Kg4 Rh2 8.b5H {HT} {231}
  36941812  4:03.8   2.50 12.  2.Kh5 Be5 3.Qf1 Bxc3 4.Qxb5+ Ke7 5.b4 Be5 6.Qf1
                               Rh8+ 7.Kg4 Rh2 8.b5 {HT} {231}

-- Dieter




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