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Subject: Re: Chess strength of these programs?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 13:59:23 03/16/98

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>Sorry, that was my intention in the first sentences :-)

:-)

>>You were always a very good tester.
>>It seems I am completely unexperiences.
>>You are still my idol Dirk.
>
>So much irony for one halfway correct guess? ;-)

Your mistake is that you think I have said this in IRONY. In fact i have
not done this in irony. I meant it 1:1.
And I am not fishing for compliments here.

What  a pity that you make it opposite out of what it was meant, a
compliment.

>I see, it's the autoplayer that raises your suspicion. But Amir is right
>IMO. What should the autoplayer do in an uncorrect way? I don't quite
>see what it *could* even be.

I have now found out WHY i cannot reproduce fritz5 good results.
It is not the autoplayer. The engine is the reason.
The engine of THIS fritz5 has the GANDALF  (1993) problem, it
can only win against TOP-programs it was tuned against in autoplayer
games before.

>Up to now i have only seen Ossi Weiner's open letter which seems to be
>quite stupid and full of hypocracy to me.

Ossi Weiner and I have one thing in common: our enthusiastic energy
sometimes produces the opposite effect we want to get.
In german: wir schiessen oft ueber das Ziel hinaus !

>>I am in this case a little like Andersch Klosterschueler in Sansibar
>>oder der letzte Grund. Sceptical.
>Yes sometimes. And sometimes very enthousiastic. That's ok with me.

I said that this is a negative but also very energized force in me.
I guess Enrique has also the same problem. Too much energy.

>Come on Thorsten, we know each other well enough and long enough.
>Do I look like giving up a friend just for a little opinion fight like
>this? ;-)

No. And this is the reason I call you a friend.

>(Biting on my tongue not to say that I am not some other well known
>person whose friendship obviously gets lost a bit easier and a bit more
>often)

:-)


>All the best to you...
>
>
>Yours Dirk

Same to you !

So - I requested Matthias NOT to open this tug of war into a pervert
end.
He did not react.

The war is declared now. They will shoot with new rockets in the next
Computer Schach and Spiel, they have spoken out threads yet, and we will
react.

And they will not survive ! Thats for sure.
What a pity. All this because of a program not worth fighting-.
I would have better fought for Junior or Hiarcs.

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