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Subject: Re: Testposition - War or Peace

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 13:25:28 03/07/01

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On March 07, 2001 at 13:59:17, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]8/5pP1/1R6/7P/8/k7/p6r/K7 w - - 0 5
>
>  After Mozes,L 1975
>
>  This is a rook ending with 2 vs 2 pawns. White is in huge trouble.
>  True he has two alert passers but he is facing an acute mate threat
>  on the first rank. The draw is there with 1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6+ etc. but
>  is there way to play for win without committing suicide?
>  After 10 minutes Fritz shows 0.00. War or peace?
>
>
>  Test: 1) White to move and play for a win. Find the + evals!
>
>        2) According to Mr Mozes it's white to move and win.
>           Is this true?  Some positions with KQ - KRP might
>           easily happen. This is for people who have all the 5 men TB:s.
>           The original solution further down.
>
>
>  Sune
>

Rebel 27 secs.

No win score +1 only, no table bases also.

Ed

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8/5pP1/1R6/7P/8/k7/p6r/K7 w - -

00:00:00  05.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6 Ka3  [5325]
00:00:01  07.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6+ Ka3  [10530]
00:00:02  10.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6+ Ka3  [32679]
00:00:02  11.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6 Ka3  [64436]
00:00:03  13.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6 Ka3  [149518]
00:00:04  14.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6 Ka3  [230011]
00:00:06  15.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6 Ka3  [276580]
00:00:12  16.00  0.00  1.Ra6+ Kb3 2.Rb6+ Ka3  [351015]
00:00:27  16.02  0.00  1.Rb1  [430912]
00:00:43  16.02  0.79  1.Rb1 axb1=Q+ 2.Kxb1 Kb3 3.Kc1 Rg2 4.h6  [444316]
00:01:12  17.00  0.83  1.Rb1 axb1=Q+ 2.Kxb1 Kb3 3.Kc1 Rg2 4.h6  [448518]
00:02:08  18.00  1.04  1.Rb1 axb1=Q+ 2.Kxb1 Kb3 3.Kc1 Rg2 4.h6  [460860]




>Mozes,L
>1975
>
>1.Rb1 axb1Q+ 2.Kxb1 Kb3 3.Kc1 Kc3 4.Kd1 Kd3 5.Ke1 Ke3 6.Kf1 Kf3 7.g8Q Rh1+ 8.Qg1
>Rxg1+ 9.Kxg1 Kg4 10.h6 1-0
>
>What about all the 5 men endings if black takes the h-pawn somewhere?
>Are they all won for white?



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