Author: Eran
Date: 13:52:17 03/17/98
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I agree with Ed. Analogically, the learner is like "cosmatics" that makes the chess program "beautifully" stronger. I am interested to see the "true heart," the engine, and not the "cosmatic skin," the learner, of the chess program. If the learners are used in SSDF, then we cannot know exactly for sure which chess engine is truely stronger. In other words, the learners "blind" the true strength of the chess engines! The purpose of testing the chess programs in SSDF is to know the strength of the chess engines and not the learners. I am very eager to know the true strength of the chess engines. Do not worry about the learners, because they will never die tomorrow. :) (I'm joking :)) Therefore, strengthening and improving the chess engines always have immense potentiality in the future! Nothing is impossible by the reality. The chess engines are magic! So, why should we worry too much about the learners? we can beautify and strengthen the chess engines a great deal, and we should not try to focus too much on the learners. Sometimes the learners can be fooling, isn't it? Eran Rebel9 Enduser On March 17, 1998 at 14:42:31, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Posted by Kai Middleton on March 17, 1998 at 12:51:42: > >>>So take my word for it that comp-comp learning is still in childhood >>>stage. So much to improve. And comp-comp learning is simply a cheat >>>as the goal is to get a higher elo on SSDF. It has nothing to do with >>>the strength of the chess engine. > >>>Blame me for my part in it. With Rebel9 I joined the club. Now I >>>step out. It was a mistake. I will not support this silly cooking >>>race any longer. Back to the roots which is the chess engine. > > >>As a user of Rebel9 I want to convey that I think the learner is a >>useful idea. One of the ways I like to use the program is to play at >>material odds. So if I take a rook off black's position (or more :-> ) > >I thought I was the only one doing this :)) > > >>I would like for the program to be able to find better and better >>openings each time I play it. Wouldn't this be a legitimate use for >>this feature? > >Sure, the Rebel book learner will stay in future releases and will be >further improved so don't worry about that. > >What I will do in the next release is remove the AUTO232 part (see menu >OPT). Doing that the only consequence is that AUTO232 (which enables 2 >computers connected with a cable to play automatic games) is not >available anymore. > >AUTO232 is a separate commercial product mainly used by the SSDF and >some computer enthusiasts who like to play automatic games between >chess programs. > >I do that because I don't want the successor of Rebel9 to enter in the >Swedish list (SSDF) for reasons I explained elsewhere in other threads. > >I will do that (excluding AUTO232 from Rebel) for at least one trial >year. After that I will make up my mind again. > >- Ed Schroder -
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