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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Programs & Intelligence

Author: Vincent Vega

Date: 19:33:46 03/13/01

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On March 13, 2001 at 21:11:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On March 13, 2001 at 19:06:27, HECTOR MUNOZ wrote:
>
>>There are some who might argue  that a computer chess program  is not a
>>demonstration of intelligence  in particular, a program which uses Shannon's
>>Type A  Approach. I need to present a solid argument that such a program
>>does involve intelligence.
>
>Trying to come up with "a solid argument that such a program does involve
>intelligence" is too defensive and probably impossible anyway. If you want to
>win a debate, don't ask any questions he expects and shift attention away from
>difficult questions he might ask by answering questions with questions, etc.
>
>For instance, at the earliest possible moment, when he asks you to provide proof
>that machines are intelligent, you counter by asking *him* to provide proof that
>*he* is intelligent. The list of intellectual accomplishments the average
>individual has is embarrassingly short, so whatever he says in response, you can
>belittle and attack ruthlessly. Whatever he says, you can discount by pointing
>out that it has been done before and so he is just "copying". Not a sign of
>intelligence at all, etc. He will find it very embarassing. For most people, the
>list is empty. Your implicit stategy then is: a program is at least as
>intelligent as a person, since the average person can provide little evidence of
>intelligence that is not easily disputable.

Hmmm, I can find quite a few "accomplishments" that could be defined as
requiring intelligence (because they require learning, adapting to new
situations, generalization or reasoning) and can be achieved by most people but
not by a currently existing computer program: getting a "human-range" score on
an IQ test, learning a foreign language, driving a car without crashing, playing
a team sport, summarizing an article, writing a computer program based on
requirements...



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