Author: Timothy J. Frohlick
Date: 09:23:12 03/14/01
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Yes Fernando, If one does not know that they are positionally lost by a certain move in a game then they are not very strong players. I was only joking...We seem to have too many serious people at this site. Most of these computer programs will roll you up in a ball by the 27th move unless you use anti-computer techniques against them. I am unrated but I have beaten candidate masters at earnest play. I avoid club play because of the too serious neurotic players. If a person keeps slugging away in a losing position then he is either Kasparov or a novice. At least Kasparov would do some pretty slick moves to trick the opponent but the novice would just let himself/herself get bloodier. Tim Frohlick On March 13, 2001 at 16:53:41, Fernando Villegas wrote: >On March 13, 2001 at 14:04:01, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On March 13, 2001 at 11:29:53, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>Christophe, >>> >>>Much stronger? Now I will be lost by the 18th move instead of the 27th. >> >>The number of moves is unimportant. >>You do not get better rating from winning faster. >> >>By this logic a program that wins a game by 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 with 3.Qh5 and 4.Qxf7# >>may be considered as the strongest program for a beginner. >> >>Uri > Hi Uri: >I suspect that Tim was only joking. Anyway, I think the number of moves that are >neccesary to beat a guy say something of his strenght and of course of the >relative strenght of the program. My rule of thumbs of a player againts a >powerful program is this: >beginner: absolutely lost in less than 10 moves. Mate inminent or just done. >1500-1600 player: already lost around move 15. Devastating material loses or >mate in the near horizon. >1800-2000 player: positionally lost and very probably a pawn behind around move >25. Doom unavoidable. >2000-2200 player: positionally lost around move 35. A pawn behind and/or a sad >ending at sight. >2300-2400 player: tough fight, but in move 50 or so the program has the edge. >70% of chances for the program. >2500 or more: anything can happens. > >What do you think? Maybe this issue could be interesting to debate. >Fernando
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