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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Programs & Intelligence

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 10:42:59 03/14/01

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On March 14, 2001 at 12:20:14, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:

>On March 14, 2001 at 10:39:30, William H Rogers wrote:
>
>>On March 13, 2001 at 19:06:27, HECTOR MUNOZ wrote:
>>
>>>There are some who might argue  that a computer chess program  is not a
>>>demonstration of intelligence  in particular, a program which uses Shannon's
>>>Type A  Approach. I need to present a solid argument that such a program
>>>does involve intelligence.
>>
>>If we consider that logic is a main part of intelligence, then we can conclude
>>that the amount of logic programmed into chess or other programs might be
>>considered as intelligence. These types of programs examine a chess board, and
>>after following all of the logical parametes that were put into them, they then
>>make a decision based upon that logic, however flawed it might be or limited in
>>its knowledge.
>>In that many of todays chess programs are able to beat world "human" champions
>>it must be acknowledged that they possess some intelligence. How many other
>>people on the planet can beat the same human chess champions?
>>Bill
>
>  Please see ==>  http://benbest.com/computer/ai.html   JAFM

thanks for the aritcle, Jose

the most interesting part of the article for me was the following excerpt...


"In 1980 philosopher John Searle wrote a paper describing a thought experiment
of a person passing the Turing Test in Chinese.

In this scenario, an English-speaking person who is ignorant of Chinese would
sit in a room in which he/she would receive messages written in Chinese.

Detailed scripts would describe what responses to provide.

Even though the person in the "Chinese Room" might convince the Chinese
interrogator that someone in the room understood Chinese,

all that occurred in reality was symbol manipulation.

Searle claimed that this is all computers ever do or can do --

manipulate symbols without any real understanding of what those symbols mean."


when i think of the different programmers that post here: Ed, Christophe, Bob,
and others...

and their respective programs... this is what in my mind is going on...

these guys are imparting their 'intelligence' to the computer and the computer
in turn is manipulating data as defined by the algorithms (modules) put there by
the programmer...

the computer, then, will exhibit intelligence to the degree that the programmers
have effectively defined chess to the computer...

pilgrimdan






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