Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 10:51:21 03/14/01
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On March 14, 2001 at 00:11:00, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On March 13, 2001 at 23:57:21, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: > >>On March 13, 2001 at 23:20:55, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >> >>>On March 13, 2001 at 22:33:46, Vincent Vega wrote: >>> >>>>On March 13, 2001 at 21:11:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 13, 2001 at 19:06:27, HECTOR MUNOZ wrote: >>>>> [snip] >>>Human behavior does not bear close scrutiny. For the most part, humans act with >>>stupidity rather than intelligence. We make too many mistakes. >> >>That is exactly a characteristic of "animal" intelligence. It is based on >>mistakes, blurred analogies, prejudice... which are the basement for >>pattern recognition. That is what is hardest for machines: To make >>mistakes. Making mistakes is sometimes good, it allows a Gazelle to recognize a >>Lion as dangerous even though it never saw one. There is a pattern there >>very dangerous, that the gazelle can predict. >> >>>Besides, it is the average individual that has difficulty proving their >>>intelligence. For Albert Einstein, it's no problem. My point was machines seem >>>to be no less intelligent than the average human being especially given human >>>folly. >> >>The human being is extremely intelligent, but that does not mean is "wise". >> >>Regards, >>Miguel > >Look, I know humans are intelligent and machines are not, but the OP has to >defend the position that machines are intelligent, which is tough assignment. He >needs ideas and I gave him one. He's like lawyer that has to do defend a client. >The client may be guilty, but the lawyer still has to make the best of it one >way or the other. > >My idea was it is hard to "prove" intelligence even when it is human in >question. I was merely suggesting a way to assume the offensive. What is your >idea to make the difficult case that he has to make? I knew what you were trying to answer, I was just making a comment. How would I try to make the case? Maybe I would say that Intelligence cannot be defined, we can only see "signs" or "characteristics" of intelligence, (same as life, that cannot be easily be defined). Then, computers show some signs of intelligence. Regards, Miguel
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