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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Programs & Intelligence

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 19:02:35 03/14/01

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On March 14, 2001 at 05:53:07, Andrew Dados wrote:

>Indeed. So let's say learn thai chess in 20 years :)
>Or create some other game.
>Or _develop_ some idea of 'beauty' or 'goal'.

See, now you are using the same arguments that people use to try to say that
animals can't have any intelligence whatsoever.  I think it's a matter of
degree.  Humans use their brains to adapt to change, but other creatures can do
the same thing to lesser degree, I believe.

Your comments are an attempt to tie intelligence to humanity and consciousness,
and I don't agree with that.  Clearly, if we're going to talk about machine
intelligence, we get nowhere if it's stipulated that you have to be a human to
have any intelligence at all.

I think there are a great many problems that humans use intelligence to solve.
In many cases that's how you solve these problems, so, within reason, if you are
solving these problems you may be exhibiting it.

I think that a program that writes music in the "human" mode exhibits
intelligence.  It's a hard problem, and a program is forced to generalize.

I don't say that a program that exhibits intelligence is superior to humans, is
human, is self-aware, etc.

bruce

>Somehow intelligent means 'transcendent' to me.
>
>And while chess program can play chess I would expect it to be able to play Thai
>chess, too. Or to learn that N+R vs R is dead draw after few games. Or to
>prepare against given opponent. Or study openings on its own.



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