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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Programs & Intelligence

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 21:42:03 03/14/01

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On March 14, 2001 at 16:14:02, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On March 14, 2001 at 12:11:41, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>Well, Bruce, your answer widens the scope of the debate. To begin with, the
>>concept of intelligence as something proper of an entity capable of intelligent
>>behaviour does not solve the problem as much intelligence as such is not clearly
>>stated first. Sounds a little bit like a circular reasonning. Nevertheless I
>
>I consider that for these purposes, intelligence is the ability to provide good
>solutions to the majority of problems inside a difficult and wide problem
>domain.


I can still see some circularity here in the definition of "good" in the context
of your sentence.

Am I just splitting hairs, or isn't it something that has to do with the
basement of the problem?



    Christophe



>A pocket calculator can provide good solutions across a wide problem domain, but
>the domain is not difficult.
>
>I can't think of an example where a hard problem is solved through specific
>coding, but I'm sure they exist.
>
>I think that a lot of things that are in the AI category are things that meet my
>definition.  For example, speech recognition, military image processing,
>advanced database searching, etc.
>
>All of these are difficult problems that require general solutions.
>
>bruce
>
>>concur with the sheer fact that all this is a matter of behaviour in certain
>>frames of reference. Probably a way to approach the problem is, then, to reject
>>from the beginning the idea of intelligence as some sustantive, specific entity
>>we can define in a sentence. Maybe it is more like a cluster of certain
>>behavioral abilities in different levels and empirical ocasions. In that case
>>even such a mechanical thing as to remember is fundamental. And certainly the
>>capacity to calculate accurately inside a system of rules is, as well, a kind of
>>intelligence. And the highest one would be the creative endeavour of the so
>>called genuses that change the entire frame of rererence. If this is so, then,
>>yes, we could say program show intelligence in some level.
>>Cheers
>>Fernando



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