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Subject: Re: Elo of Deep Blue

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:38:30 03/15/01

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On March 16, 2001 at 00:20:51, Roy Beam wrote:

>On March 15, 2001 at 18:57:23, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On March 15, 2001 at 07:49:57, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On March 15, 2001 at 06:38:56, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 14, 2001 at 23:03:45, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>After all that said, I'd say Deep Blue, or Deeper Blues' ELO was about
>>>>>2700-2750, Garry was'nt Garry after Game 2.
>>>>>I will also add that Deep Blue was the first true GM strength computer
>>>>>and in many ways, if it were still in existance the only _True_ GM machine.
>>>>>Maybe the fastest PC's at 40 in 2 with the best software books hash EGTBS
>>>>>etc. may be _Weak_ GMs'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>IMHO, nothing but speculations. We'll never know.
>>>
>>>Uli
>>>
>>>I don't rely on pure speculation, Deep Blue was a GRANDMASTER. FACT!
>>>Ask Kasparov, Joel Benjamin, and other GM's. If your a strong player
>>>you would see for yourself, even with the published games that DB was
>>>indeed a GM player, but _NOT_ the strength of Kasparov.
>>
>>I think 2500 is pretty safe.  But calling it a fact does not make it become so.
>>It is an opinion and a very good opinion.  But not a fact.
>
>
>  I think it is a fact that no 2500 player could ever beat garry kasparov in a
>match short of him falling dead at the board.

The question is what is your definition of a fact.

There is no doubt that 2500 players have a chance and the only question is what
is the probability of them to do it.

It is a fact that even by playing random moves you have a chance to beat
kasparov 3.5-2.5(The probability is something between 1/10^100 and 1/10^2000)

Uri



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