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Subject: Re: Testposition

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:27:32 03/18/01

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On March 18, 2001 at 09:36:03, Christian Koch wrote:

>[D]6k1/1p3r1p/pQ1p2p1/P2Pp3/4P2b/R5Nb/1P1N1Bq1/4K3 w - -
>
>This is a position from a game Shredder 5 vs. Gambit Tiger 1.0...
>
>Now the evaluation after 10 minutes from Gambit Tiger 1.0:
>
>00:01:03.1	-4,68	13	8311109	Rf3 Rxf3 Nxf3 Qxf3 Qxd6 Bxg3 Qd8+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh6 Bxg3
>Qxg3+ Kd1 Qg4+ Kd2 Qg5+
>00:01:03.1	-4,68	13	8311109	Rf3 Rxf3 Nxf3 Qxf3 Qxd6 Bxg3 Qd8+ Kg7 Qe7+ Kh6 Bxg3
>Qxg3+ Kd1 Qg4+ Kd2 Qg5+
>00:05:57.5	-4,56	13	49520860	Rc3 Bg4 Rd3 h6 Ndf1 Rf8 Rd2 Rc8 Rd3 Rc1+ Kd2 Bg5+
>Ne3 Rd1+ Kc3 Rxd3+ Kxd3 Qxf2
>
>




GT simply has a _very_ speculative evaluation.  This is old news...



>
>And here the evaluations from other programms (128 MB hash) after 10 minutes.
>
>Gandalf 4.32h:
>10.04	 4:11 	-0.73 	41.Ndf1 Bxg3 42.Nxg3 h5 43.Qe3 Rf4 44.Qa7 h4 45.Ne2 Qf1+
>46.Kd2 Rxf2 47.Qb8+ Kf7 48.Qxb7+ Ke8 49.Qa8+ Ke7 50.Qxa6 (29.043.474) 115.5
>best move: Nd2-f1 time: 10:05.992 min  n/s: 114.205  nodes: 69.219.804
>
>
>Shredder 5:
>14.01	 7:01 	+0.01-- 41.Rc3 Rf8 42.Qe3 Bg4 43.Ndf1 Bg5 44.Qa7 h5 45.Rc4 h4
>46.Qxb7 Rxf2 (51.686.580) 122.4
>best move: Ra3-c3 time: 10:09.607 min  n/s: 123.283  CPU 98.9%  nodes:
>75.152.987
>
>
>Yace 0.99.09:
>2.04	10:07 	+0.06 	41.Rc3 h5 42.Qe3 Bg4 43.Rd3 Rc7 44.Ndf1 Rc2 45.Rc3 Rxb2
>46.Rc7 b5 (155.982.319) 256.7
>best move: Ra3-c3 time: 10:07.493 min  n/s: 256.766  nodes: 155.982.319
>
>
>Patzer 3.43:
>13.01	 5:52 	+0.59-- 41.Rc3 Bg5 (40.156.227) 113.7
>best move: Ra3-c3 time: 10:05.231 min  n/s: 112.418  nodes: 68.125.346
>
>SOS:
>12.01	 9:23 	-0.71 	41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bg4 43.Ndf1 Rf3 44.Rxf3 Qxf3 45.Ne3 Bxg3
>46.Nxg4 (87.488.581) 155.3
>best move: Ra3-c3 time: 10:24.949 min  n/s: 155.663  CPU 95.4%  nodes:
>97.134.187
>
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>41.Rc3 Bg5 42.Nc4 Bh4 43.Nxd6 Bxg3 44.Nxf7 Qf1+ 45.Kd2 Bxf2
>  +-  (1.50)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:00  322kN
>41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bg5 43.Rc2 Bf4 44.Ndf1 Qf3 45.Qxd6
>  +-  (1.47)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:01  765kN
>41.Rc3--
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:07  3121kN
>41.Rc3--
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:08  3456kN
>41.Rc3--
>  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:16  6975kN
>41.Rc3-- h5 42.Qe3 Bg4 43.Rd3 Bxg3 44.Qxg3 Rc7 45.Rc3 Rxc3 46.bxc3 Qxg3
>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 11/37   00:00:28  12611kN
>41.Rc3 h5 42.Qe3 Bg4 43.Rd3 Kg7 44.b4 Bxg3 45.Qxg3 Rxf2 46.Qxf2 Qh1+
>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:57  25052kN
>41.Rc3 h5 42.Qe3 Bg4 43.Rd3 Kg7 44.b3 Bg5 45.Qa7 Bxd2+ 46.Rxd2 h4
>  =  (0.25)   Depth: 13/36   00:01:55  51269kN
>41.Rc3 Bg5 42.Rd3 Bd7 43.Nc4 Bb5 44.Nxd6 Rxf2 45.Qxf2 Qxf2+ 46.Kxf2 Bxd3
>  =  (0.09)   Depth: 14/39   00:06:31  163293kN
>
>
>Analysis by Junior 6.0:
>41.Rc3 Rf4 42.b4 Bg4 43.Nc4
>  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  47kN
>41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bg4 43.Ndf1
>  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  618kN
>41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bd7 43.Qe3 Bg5 44.Qxg5 Qxf2+ 45.Kd1 Qg1+ 46.Kc2 Rf2
>  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 15   00:00:15  6300kN
>41.Rc3 Bg5 42.Ndf1 Bg4 43.Rd3 h5 44.Nd2 h4
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 17   00:02:23  56949kN
>41.Rc3 Bg5 42.Nc4 h5 43.Nxd6 Bd2+ 44.Kxd2 Rxf2+ 45.Kd3 Qxg3+ 46.Kc4 Qg2 47.Rxh3
>Qf1+ 48.Kb4 Rxb2+ 49.Rb3 Qe1+ 50.Ka4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18   00:08:59  214841kN
>
>
>Analysis by Gromit 3.8.1:
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.Ndf1
>  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 8/46   00:00:23  1654kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.b4 Kg7
>  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 9/46   00:00:35  2503kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.b3 Kg7
>  µ  (-1.34)   Depth: 10/52   00:01:35  6516kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.b4 Rf8 43.Qa7 h5
>  -+  (-1.49)   Depth: 11/57   00:06:21  21269kN
>41.b4
>  -+  (-1.48)   Depth: 11/57   00:06:27  21650kN
>41.b4 h5
>  -+  (-1.48)   Depth: 11/57   00:07:58  28379kN
>
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs7.32:
>41.Rd3 Bg4 42.Ndf1 Kg7 43.Rd2 Qf3
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:28  1667kN
>41.Rd3 Bg4
>  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:48  2663kN
>41.Rd3 Bg4 42.b4 Rf8 43.Rc3 h5 44.Rd3 Rc8
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 9/29   00:01:05  3678kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.Ndf1 Rf8 43.Qe3 b5 44.Qd2 Bg5 45.Qc2
>  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 9/29   00:01:30  4940kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4
>  =  (0.08)   Depth: 10/29   00:02:14  6874kN
>41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bg4 43.Ndf1 Rf3
>  =  (0.01)   Depth: 10/30   00:03:30  10678kN
>41.Rc3 Rf8 42.b4 Bg4 43.Ndf1 Rf3 44.Rc2 Rd3 45.Rc1 Qf3 46.Nd2 Qg2 47.Ndf1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/30   00:09:59  30703kN
>
>
>Analysis by Nimzo 8:
>41.Rc3
>  ±  (1.11)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:41  12854kN
>41.Rc3
>  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:43  13933kN
>41.Rc3 Bg5 42.Rd3 h5 43.b4 h4 44.Ngf1 Qh1 45.Rxh3 Bxd2+ 46.Kxd2
>  =  (0.07)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:48  15363kN
>41.Rb3
>  =  (0.08)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:50  16094kN
>41.Rb3
>  ²  (0.68)   Depth: 10/25   00:01:01  19875kN
>41.Rb3 Bg5 42.Nc4 h5 43.Nxd6 Bd2+ 44.Kxd2 Rxf2+ 45.Kc3 Qxg3+ 46.Kb4
>  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 10/25   00:01:09  22668kN
>41.Rd3
>  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 10/25   00:01:20  26539kN
>41.Rb3 Bg5 42.Nc4 h5 43.Nxd6 Bd2+ 44.Kxd2 Rxf2+ 45.Kc3 Qxg3+ 46.Kb4
>  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 10/25   00:01:27  29068kN
>41.Rb3 Bg4 42.Rd3 Bf3 43.Qe3 Bxg3 44.Nxf3 Rf4 45.Bxg3 Qxg3+ 46.Ke2
>  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 11/26   00:02:32  52750kN
>41.Rd3
>  ²  (0.65)   Depth: 11/26   00:02:44  56808kN
>41.Rb3 Bg4 42.Rd3 Bf3 43.Qe3 Bxg3 44.Nxf3 Rf4 45.Bxg3 Qxg3+ 46.Ke2
>  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 11/26   00:02:55  60950kN
>41.Rb3
>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 12/28   00:04:31  98456kN
>41.Rb3 Bg5 42.Nc4 Rf8 43.Rc3 Bh4 44.Nd2 Bd8 45.Qe3 Bxa5 46.Rd3
>  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 12/28   00:04:58  109571kN
>41.Rd3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/28   00:05:19  117840kN
>41.Rd3 Bg5 42.Nc4 Bh4 43.Nxd6 Rf8 44.Ndf5 gxf5 45.Qe6+ Rf7 46.Qc8+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/28   00:05:56  133097kN
>
>
>Analysis by Crafty 18.03:
>41.Rc3 h6 42.Ndf1 Bg4 43.b3 Rf8 44.b4 Bd8 45.Qe3 Bh4
>  ±  (1.10)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:12  3021kN
>41.Rc3 Bg4 42.Ndf1 h5 43.Rc2 Qf3 44.Rd2 Bh3 45.Qxd6 Bxf1 46.Qxg6+ Rg7 47.Qxh5
>  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 11/27   00:02:04  36578kN
>41.Rb3 Bg4 42.Ndf1 h5 43.Qa7 Bd8 44.Rxb7 Bxa5+ 45.b4 Bxb4+ 46.Rxb4 Rxa7 47.Bxa7
>  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 11/27   00:03:25  60027kN
>41.Rb3 Bg4 42.Ndf1 h5 43.Nd2 Bg5 44.Rd3 h4 45.Ngf1 Bxd2+ 46.Nxd2 Qh1+ 47.Bg1 h3
>  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 12/32   00:03:57  69385kN
>41.Rb3 Bg4 42.Rd3 Rf8 43.Qa7 h5 44.Rc3 Bd8 45.b4 h4 46.Ngf1 h3 47.Ng3
>  =  (0.17)   Depth: 13/34   00:08:00  132564kN



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