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Subject: Re: Strange things with computeraccounts!

Author: Chuck

Date: 15:27:23 03/19/01

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On March 19, 2001 at 18:10:27, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>Hello Chuck
>
>>Isn't that what you're doing it for? Otherwise, why would you care? What they
>>are doing is wrong,
>
>Yes agreed. The reson for my posting was because i didnt see the purpose WHY
>they are doing this!!
>
>>but so is your kibitzing in the middle of a game.
>
>???? 1. I am watching every game in whole length! I was wondering why humans
>play as humans without anouncing that they are using a computer. Really strange
>is that they ALL (till now) stopped playing with a comp when asked if they do
>so? It seemed that they have a bad consience about what they are doing. Am i not
>allowed to ask a cheater if he do so???
>
>>Especially when you're not even playing.
>
>Of course i am not playing thats why i have a offical (C) account!
>
>>Please try to be objective when you consider this.
>
>To be objective to a cheater is really hard work. But to clear some things up.
>I would never break a game and give it to an admin to correct the ratings. Why
>should I. I am beta testing several engines a I appreciate a loss because it may
>be a possibility to improve the program for the author. I only do NOT understand
>why people are doing this.
>
>Regards Ingo

Hi Ingo,

I agree with you on all counts but one. Cheating is definitely a problem we have
to deal with, and I'm not sure if I agree with any method of detecting it, short
of making everyone use a web cam. That would change things!

But I don't like ICC's idea of having blitzin monitor someone's computer. In
America we generally view that as Invasion of Privacy. My concern there is what
will it be monitoring next?

The one point on which I do object, however, is the kibitzing remark you
mentioned (doing it during the game). If you were playing the game yourself, or
against another computer account, I wouldn't complain. I would not complain if
you made the kibitz after the game, either. But it's not at all fair to your
human opponent during the game. And, of course, his doing something wrong does
not make it OK. If you think someone is cheating please report it after the
game. This is not a best solution, I agree, but in the even you might be wrong,
perhaps it's best not to be hasty.

By the way, it seems to me that ICC has the stongest 1500-rated players in the
world, although I would expect computer cheating to be roughly as common on any
given server. This is a curious observation, indeed.

Regards,

Chuck



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