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Subject: Re: Which program should play Kramnik?

Author: Thomas Lagershausen

Date: 14:07:20 03/20/01

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On March 20, 2001 at 16:30:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 20, 2001 at 13:08:05, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2001 at 10:40:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 20, 2001 at 08:20:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 20, 2001 at 08:15:24, Lin Harper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 20, 2001 at 06:41:44, Mark Schreiber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>A question for the CCC opinion poll. Brain games will stage a match between
>>>>>>world champion Kramnik and a computer in October. Which program has the best
>>>>>>chance to beat Kramnik? I think its Deep Junior, because it has performed best
>>>>>>against humans. Deep junior?s performance was fide 2703 at Dortmund 2000, a
>>>>>>category 19 tournament. My 2nd choice would be Shredder. What does everyone else
>>>>>>think?
>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>       I read somewhere that Kasparov trains using Fritz. For that
>>>>>   reason alone I'd say Fritz is _not_ used for this match.
>>>>>       Take your pick between Shredder or Tiger.
>>>>
>>>>It is not relevant because the match is not between Kasparov and a computer but
>>>>between Kramnik and a computer and the question is if Kramnik is using Fritz and
>>>>not if Kasparov is using Fritz.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>THe question is a moot one.  If it is announced that Kramnik is going to play
>>>vs Shredder, you can bet Kramnik will have a copy of Shredder to prepare with.
>>
>>I hope you are so good informed like it sound because no one else is so sure
>>which program will play Kramnik.Can you please tell us the place where we can
>>read shredders name ? I think shredder has the only right to get this important
>>match because he won the last two wourldchampionchips.A program that play againt
>>the human wourldchampiom should also be wourldchampion.
>>
>>Greetings
>>Thomas Lagershausen
>
>
>I don't have any idea which program Kramnik will play.  But you can bet that
>once it is known, Kramnik will practice against the most recently available
>version of that program...

That´s no real problem. Every autor of a chessprogram develope further and
further.Kramnik will met a version which will not be commercial available.
Stefan Meyer-Kahlen goes to paderborn also with a new version of shredder 5.
This version is different on a single processor system to the former shredder 5.
See my testgames on tournamentlevel with 600 Mhz PC´s after move 16th from the
game DeepShredder - DeepPatzer from paderborn.

[Event "Versuch Deep Shredder-Deep Patzer"]
[Site "Paderborn "]
[Date "2001.03.06"]
[Round "2"]
[White "DeepShredder (600)"]
[Black "Gambit Tiger (600)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C43"]
[PlyCount "157"]
[EventDate "2001.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7 6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Qh4 8.
c4 O-O-O 9. c5 g5 10. Nc3 Bg7 11. Ne2 Nf6 12. Bd2 Ng4 13. h3 Nf6 14. Qc1 Ne4
15. Be1 Qh5 16. f3 f5 17. b4 f4 18. Qa3 Kb8 19. b5 Ng3 20. Bxg3 fxg3 21. b6
axb6 22. cxb6 cxb6 23. Qd6+ Ka7 24. Rab1 Qh6 25. Qxg3 Qh4 26. Qxh4 gxh4 27. Rb4
Rde8 28. Kf2 Bf8 29. Rb3 Ba4 30. Rb2 Ba3 31. Rbb1 Rc8 32. Ke3 Rhg8 33. Rf2 Rc7
34. f4 Bf8 35. Kd2 Bh6 36. Ke1 Rf8 37. Rb2 Be8 38. f5 Bh5 39. Rc2 Re7 40. f6
Re6 41. Bxh7 Kb8 42. Rf5 Bf7 43. Rf3 Bg5 44. Bf5 Rxf6 45. Rcc3 Bh5 46. Bg4 Bg6
47. Kd1 Bb1 48. a3 Ka7 49. Rxf6 Rxf6 50. Ke1 Ba2 51. g3 Bc4 52. gxh4 Bxh4+ 53.
Kd1 Rf1+ 54. Kc2 Be1 55. Re3 Bf2 56. Re5 Ra1 57. Bf3 Ra2+ 58. Kc1 b5 59. Kb1
Rxa3 60. Bxd5 Rxh3 61. Kc2 Be1 62. Bxc4 bxc4 63. Rc5 Rd3 64. Kc1 Rd2 65. Re5
Ra2 66. Kb1 Ra3 67. Rc5 Re3 68. Nc1 Rc3 69. Na2 Rb3+ 70. Kc2 b5 71. Nc1 Rb4 72.
Ne2 Ka6 73. Nf4 Rb3 74. Ne6 Rc3+ 75. Kb2 Ka5 76. Nc7 Rb3+ 77. Kc2 Bf2 78. Nxb5
Rxb5 79. Rxc4 1/2-1/2

[Event "Experiment"]
[Site "40in120"]
[Date "2001.03.06"]
[Round "nach 16.f3"]
[White "Shredder5 (600)"]
[Black "Gambit Tiger 1.0 (600)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Opening "C43 Petrov: Modern Attack, Symmetrical Variation"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.Nxd7 Bxd7 7.O-O Qh4 8.c4 O-O-O
9.c5 g5 10.Nc3
Bg7 11.Ne2 Nf6 12.Bd2 Ng4 13.h3 Nf6 14.Qc1 Ne4 15.Be1 Qh5 16.f3 f5 17.Qc2 Qg6
18.b4 g4 19.hxg4
Bh6 20.g3 Be3+ 21.Kg2 Rdf8 22.Nf4 Qg7 23.Nxd5 h5 24.Nxe3 hxg4 25.Nxf5 Rxf5
26.fxe4 Rfh5
27.Kf2 Qxd4+ 28.Ke2 Rh2+ 29.Rf2 Qxa1 30.b5 c6 31.b6 axb6 32.cxb6 Rxf2+ 33.Bxf2
Qf6 34.Qc4
Be6 35.Qd4 Qf3+ 36.Ke1 Rh1+ 37.Bf1 Qa3 38.Be3 Qxa2 39.Bg1 Rxg1 40.Qxg1 Qa1+
41.Kd2
Bc4 42.Qc5 Qxf1 43.Qd6 Qf7 44.Qe5 Bb5 45.Qh8+ Kd7 0-1

Thomas Lagershausen



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