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Subject: Re: A draw vs. Deep Fritz (blitz) without a Rook!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:35:00 03/21/01

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On March 21, 2001 at 05:22:26, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 21, 2001 at 04:11:44, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2001 at 23:10:50, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>I played a game vs. Deep Fritz from this Position:
>>>
>>>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -
>>>
>>>(DF with 64 MB hash on a P600):
>>>
>>>[Event "10'"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "Nemeth,E"]
>>>[Black "Deep Fritz"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -"]
>>>
>>>1. Na3 {0} e5 {-5.09/12 17} 2. g3 {2} Nc6 {-5.38/11 13}
>>>3. Nb1 {6} Nf6 {-5.41/11 12} 4. d3 {5} d5 {-5.31/12 26}
>>>5. h4 {7} Bc5 {-5.66/11 28} 6. Bg2 {4} O-O {-5.63/10 19}
>>>7. Bg5 {21} h6 {-5.81/11 21} 8. e3 {2} hxg5 {-7.19/10 6}
>>>9. hxg5 {1} Ng4 {-7.34/10 12} 10. f4 {2} Nxe3 {-9.84/8 5}
>>>11. Qh5 {3} Nxg2+ {-9.28/7 6} 12. Kf1 {12} Ne3+ {-7.00/8
>>>10} 13. Ke1 {13} Nxc2+ {-5.59/10 0} 14. Kd2 {19} Be3+
>>>{0.00/12 0} 15. Kxc2 {9} Nd4+ {0.00/12 10} 16. Kc3 {18}
>>>Nb5+ {0.00/12 5} 17. Kc2 {14} f6 {0.00/13 0} 18. g6 {26}
>>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 0} 19. Kc3 {55} Nb5+ {0.00/15 2} 20. Kc2 {3}
>>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 18} 21. Kc3 {3} Nb5+ {0.00/13 5} 22. Kc2 {2}
>>>1/2-1/2
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eduard
>>
>> Yes, Fritz has a terrible weakness when white plays h4, then puts
>> a piece on g5 - Fritz will often play ...h6 and take the piece,
>> therebye opening the h-file. You have shown this in numerous games.
>> This is tragicomical. Do you have any idea about how other top programs
>> handle this this type of positions - Junior, Shredder, Rebel,
>> Gambit Tiger, CM?  Guess King Safety is the name of the game..
>>
>> Sune
>
>I disagree.
>
>h6 and hxg5 were not the losing mistake in this game.

You did not say that h6 and hxg5 were mistakes but the impression from your
words was that you criticize Fritz for playing these moves.

I think that the main problem of Fritz is that it needs 13 seconds on my pIII800
to avoid 10...Nxe3.
Part of the other programs like Hiarcs are faster but part of them like Gandalf
are slower.

Uri



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