Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 02:38:12 03/21/01
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On March 21, 2001 at 05:22:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>On March 21, 2001 at 04:11:44, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2001 at 23:10:50, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>I played a game vs. Deep Fritz from this Position:
>>>
>>>[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -
>>>
>>>(DF with 64 MB hash on a P600):
>>>
>>>[Event "10'"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "Nemeth,E"]
>>>[Black "Deep Fritz"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -"]
>>>
>>>1. Na3 {0} e5 {-5.09/12 17} 2. g3 {2} Nc6 {-5.38/11 13}
>>>3. Nb1 {6} Nf6 {-5.41/11 12} 4. d3 {5} d5 {-5.31/12 26}
>>>5. h4 {7} Bc5 {-5.66/11 28} 6. Bg2 {4} O-O {-5.63/10 19}
>>>7. Bg5 {21} h6 {-5.81/11 21} 8. e3 {2} hxg5 {-7.19/10 6}
>>>9. hxg5 {1} Ng4 {-7.34/10 12} 10. f4 {2} Nxe3 {-9.84/8 5}
>>>11. Qh5 {3} Nxg2+ {-9.28/7 6} 12. Kf1 {12} Ne3+ {-7.00/8
>>>10} 13. Ke1 {13} Nxc2+ {-5.59/10 0} 14. Kd2 {19} Be3+
>>>{0.00/12 0} 15. Kxc2 {9} Nd4+ {0.00/12 10} 16. Kc3 {18}
>>>Nb5+ {0.00/12 5} 17. Kc2 {14} f6 {0.00/13 0} 18. g6 {26}
>>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 0} 19. Kc3 {55} Nb5+ {0.00/15 2} 20. Kc2 {3}
>>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 18} 21. Kc3 {3} Nb5+ {0.00/13 5} 22. Kc2 {2}
>>>1/2-1/2
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eduard
>>
>> Yes, Fritz has a terrible weakness when white plays h4, then puts
>> a piece on g5 - Fritz will often play ...h6 and take the piece,
>> therebye opening the h-file. You have shown this in numerous games.
>> This is tragicomical. Do you have any idea about how other top programs
>> handle this this type of positions - Junior, Shredder, Rebel,
>> Gambit Tiger, CM? Guess King Safety is the name of the game..
>>
>> Sune
>
>I disagree.
Yes, but you totally miss my point. Eduard has played and posted
numerous of games vs Fritz, where he wins easily with this tactic.
So, Fritz has this terrible weakness and my question was how other
top programs handle these positions, (when black loses if he takes
the piece on g5). I have some memory from one of the German foras
that Eduard stated that Gambit Tiger was much tougher to trick into
these positions.
Sune
>
>h6 and hxg5 were not the losing mistake in this game.
>
>Black has no problem to win by moves like 10...Re8
>10..Nxe3 was a mistake and black has no easy win after it but Deep Fritz can
>find the plan 12...Nh4 13.Rxh4 f5 14.g6 Qxh4 at longer time control.
>
>13...Nxc2+ is probably the last mistake and the best move is probably 13...Ng2+
>with the same plan(Fritz prefers Bb4+ but it is because it does not like
>repetition).
>
>Uri
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