Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 06:15:26 03/21/01
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On March 21, 2001 at 04:11:44, Sune Larsson wrote:
>On March 20, 2001 at 23:10:50, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>I played a game vs. Deep Fritz from this Position:
>>
>>rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -
>>
>>(DF with 64 MB hash on a P600):
>>
>>[Event "10'"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "Nemeth,E"]
>>[Black "Deep Fritz"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq -"]
>>
>>1. Na3 {0} e5 {-5.09/12 17} 2. g3 {2} Nc6 {-5.38/11 13}
>>3. Nb1 {6} Nf6 {-5.41/11 12} 4. d3 {5} d5 {-5.31/12 26}
>>5. h4 {7} Bc5 {-5.66/11 28} 6. Bg2 {4} O-O {-5.63/10 19}
>>7. Bg5 {21} h6 {-5.81/11 21} 8. e3 {2} hxg5 {-7.19/10 6}
>>9. hxg5 {1} Ng4 {-7.34/10 12} 10. f4 {2} Nxe3 {-9.84/8 5}
>>11. Qh5 {3} Nxg2+ {-9.28/7 6} 12. Kf1 {12} Ne3+ {-7.00/8
>>10} 13. Ke1 {13} Nxc2+ {-5.59/10 0} 14. Kd2 {19} Be3+
>>{0.00/12 0} 15. Kxc2 {9} Nd4+ {0.00/12 10} 16. Kc3 {18}
>>Nb5+ {0.00/12 5} 17. Kc2 {14} f6 {0.00/13 0} 18. g6 {26}
>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 0} 19. Kc3 {55} Nb5+ {0.00/15 2} 20. Kc2 {3}
>>Nd4+ {0.00/14 18} 21. Kc3 {3} Nb5+ {0.00/13 5} 22. Kc2 {2}
>>1/2-1/2
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eduard
>
> Yes, Fritz has a terrible weakness when white plays h4, then puts
> a piece on g5 - Fritz will often play ...h6 and take the piece,
> therebye opening the h-file. You have shown this in numerous games.
> This is tragicomical. Do you have any idea about how other top programs
> handle this this type of positions - Junior, Shredder, Rebel,
> Gambit Tiger, CM? Guess King Safety is the name of the game..
>
> Sune
Hello!
I whould this tested....and it was draw! :))
I played many games vs. Fritz, and I know where Fritz is bad.
In my tests is Tiger the best program against human, Century too
Against Fritz, Shredder und Junior I have a better chance!
Here games was i played against Junior6a, Shredder 5 and Gambit Tiger 1.0.
(and Fritz).
"first 5 moves" give Harald Faber im Gambitsoft forum than book-moves.
I this win! From this first moves i make a book in all programs and played
it also.
[Event "30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth,Eduard"]
[Black "Junior 6a"]
[ECO "C24"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {0} e5 {0} 2. Bc4 {6} Nf6 {0} 3. d4 {2} exd4 {0}
4. Nf3 {3} Nxe4 {0} 5. Qxd4 {2} Nf6 {0} 6. O-O {8} d5
{-0.27/13 61} 7. Bb5+ {9} c6 {-0.56/14 41} 8. Bd3 {5} Be7
{-0.67/16 73} 9. Bg5 {24} O-O {-0.79/15 85} 10. Qh4 {21} h6
{-1.18/14 54} 11. Nc3 {2} hxg5 {-2.65/15 27} 12. Nxg5 {5}
g6 {-2.62/15 13} 13. Qh6 {21} Qe8 {-2.58/15 43} 14. Rfe1
{2} a5 {-1.20/14 71} 15. Nce4 {2} dxe4 {13.56/16 102}
16. Rxe4 {6} Bg4 {#10/16 86} 17. Rxg4 {10} Bc5 {#9/15 38}
18. Rh4 {4} Bxf2+ {#8/17 29} 19. Kxf2 {9} Ng4+ {#7/18 41}
20. Rxg4 {5} Qe3+ {#6/20 34} 21. Kxe3 {4} Re8+ {#5/20 25}
22. Re4 {6} Rxe4+ {#4/37 21} 23. Bxe4 {14} Nd7 {#3/61 0}
24. Qh7+ {9} Kf8 {#3/3 0} 25. Qxf7# {1} 1-0
[Event "Blitz30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Nemeth,E"]
[Black "Shredder 5"]
[ECO "C24"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {0s} e5 {Buch 0s} 2. Bc4 {2s} Nf6 {Buch 0s} 3. d4
{2s} exd4 {Buch 0s} 4. Nf3 {1s} Nxe4 {Buch 0s} 5. Qxd4 {2s}
Nf6 {Buch 0s} 6. O-O {1s} d5 {+0.09/10 31s} 7. Bb5+ {2s} c6
{+0.84/11 38s} 8. Bd3 {4s} Be7 {+0.88/11 20s} 9. Bg5 {3s}
O-O {+1.07/11 27s} 10. Qh4 {2s (Sc3)} h6 {+1.71/9 5s}
11. Nc3 {4s (Lf4)} hxg5 {+2.35/11 1:19m} 12. Nxg5 {2s} g6
{+2.37/11 1:14m} 13. Qh6 {1s} Qe8 {+2.64/10 33s} 14. Rfe1
{1s (Tae1)} Na6 {+0.64/10 2:25m} 15. Nce4 {1s (Te3)} dxe4
{-M10/14 4:10m} 16. Rxe4 {6s} Bc5 {-M8/11 52s} 17. Rh4 {7s}
Bxf2+ {-M7/12 41s} 18. Kxf2 {1s} Qe3+ {-M6/11 25s} 19. Kxe3
{1s} Ng4+ {-M5/12 23s} 20. Rxg4 {1s} Re8+ {-M4/12 42s}
21. Be4 {26s} Rxe4+ {-M3/13 42s} 22. Rxe4 {0s} Be6 {-M2/8
23s} 23. Rh4 {1s} Rd8 {-M1/8 8s} 24. Qh8# {1s} 1-0
[Event "30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth,E"]
[Black "Fritz 6a"]
[ECO "C24"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {0} e5 {0} 2. Bc4 {2} Nf6 {0} 3. d4 {2} exd4 {0}
4. Nf3 {2} Nxe4 {0} 5. Qxd4 {1} Nf6 {0} 6. O-O {5} d5
{-0.53/11 38} 7. Bb5+ {4} c6 {-0.72/13 91} 8. Bd3 {3} Be7
{-0.75/13 74} 9. Bg5 {3} O-O {-0.81/12 91} 10. Qh4 {2} h6
{-1.34/12 45} 11. Nc3 {2} hxg5 {-2.34/12 16} 12. Nxg5 {2}
g6 {-1.91/13 69} 13. Qh6 {1} Bf5 {-1.75/11 29} 14. Bxf5 {4}
gxf5 {-0.41/12 64} 15. Rae1 {3} Re8 {0.94/12 70} 16. Re3
{29} Bf8 {0.97/14 28} 17. Rxe8 {77} Qxe8 {0.78/16 0}
18. Qxf6 {4} Qd7 {0.69/13 28} 19. Re1 {18} Bg7 {0.62/14 93}
20. Qe7 {3} Qxe7 {0.69/13 76} 21. Rxe7 {2} Bf6 {0.66/13 20}
22. Re8+ {2} Kg7 {0.66/12 0} 23. Nf3 {3} Kg6 {0.72/13 38}
24. Nd1 {4} a6 {0.78/13 63} 25. Ne3 {12} Bxb2 {0.56/12 25}
26. Nh4+ {2} Kf6 {0.81/13 35} 27. Nexf5 {3} Be5 {1.03/12
16} 28. g3 {5} Bc7 {1.22/12 12} 29. f4 {30} Ra7 {2.44/13
20} 30. Kg2 {2} Nd7 {2.53/13 14} 31. Rh8 {34} Ne5 {2.91/14
10} 32. fxe5+ {3} Bxe5 {3.00/13 18} 33. Kf3 {18} Ke6
{3.09/14 0} 34. Re8+ {6} Kf6 {4.19/13 12} 35. Kg4 {24} b6
{6.22/13 33} 36. Nf3 {32} Bc3 {6.94/13 0} 37. h4 {3} Bb2
{7.03/13 11} 38. h5 {9} 1-0
[Event "Blitz30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth,E"]
[Black "Gambit Tiger 1.0"]
[ECO "C24"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Qxd4 Nf6
6. Nc3 Nc6 7. Qh4 Be7 8. Bg5 d5 9. O-O-O Be6 10. Rhe1 O-O
11. Bd3 h6 12. Rxe6 fxe6 13. Bxh6 gxh6 14. Qg3+ Kh8 15. Qg6
Qe8 16. Qxh6+ Kg8 17. Qg5+ Kh8 18. Qh6+ Kg8 19. Qg5+ Kh8
20. Qh6+ 1/2-1/2
You See, Tiger was here the strongest program!
And here give me Thomas Lagershausen "first 5 moves" and
i must this play with black - but i this wins! :)
Here:
[Event "30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Deep Fritz"]
[Black "Nemeth,Eduard"]
[ECO "C63"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 {0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {0} Nc6 {2} 3. Bb5 {0} f5 {4}
4. Nc3 {0} fxe4 {2} 5. Nxe4 {0} Nf6 {4} 6. Qe2 {0.41/11 33}
Qe7 {4} 7. O-O {0.47/11 40} d5 {4} 8. Nxf6+ {0.34/12 55}
gxf6 {2} 9. d4 {0.31/12 61} e4 {2} 10. Nd2 {0.22/11 31} Rg8
{7} 11. Nb3 {0.19/11 49} Bg4 {5} 12. Bxc6+ {0.38/13 65}
bxc6 {3} 13. Qa6 {0.25/13 68} Bf3 {2} 14. g3 {0.28/13 42}
Qf7 {23} 15. Qxc6+ {1.16/12 24} Qd7 {2} 16. Qxa8+ {1.13/13
28} Kf7 {2} 17. Nd2 {-0.19/13 43} Bc5 {7} 18. Qxd5+
{-0.37/14 26} Qxd5 {2} 19. dxc5 {-0.47/13 19} Qf5 {16}
20. Nxf3 {-0.94/14 33} exf3 {2} 21. Kh1 {-0.97/14 31} Re8
{4} 22. Be3 {-1.06/13 41} Re5 {46} 23. g4 {-1.59/15 0} Qxc2
{24} 24. Bd4 {-1.41/13 12} Re4 {34} 25. Rac1 {-2.03/13 2}
Qa4 {11} 26. Be3 {-1.91/13 30} Qxa2 {21} 27. c6 {-2.09/12
4} Qxb2 {38} 28. Bxa7 {-2.59/14 0} Rxg4 {5} 29. Rfe1
{-3.09/13 27} Rg2 {5} 30. Rg1 {-3.22/14 33} Rxg1+ {35}
31. Rxg1 {-3.34/19 0} Qc3 {7} 32. Be3 {-3.47/16 24} Qxc6
{2} 33. Rd1 {-3.59/15 40} Qe4 {11} 34. Rd7+ {-3.78/14 10}
Ke6 {6} 35. Rd1 {-4.00/16 52} f5 {7} 36. Re1 {-3.97/14 12}
Kf7 {2} 37. Rc1 {-4.50/15 23} f4 {2} 38. Ba7 {-5.03/15 27}
c6 {7} 39. Bb6 {-5.00/15 24} Qe5 {21} 40. Rg1 {-5.37/15 3}
c5 {3} 41. Ba5 {-5.59/15 16} c4 {3} 42. Bb4 {-5.91/15 14}
c3 {2} 43. Ba3 {-8.34/15 29} Qb5 {28} 44. Bd6 {-11.31/15
13} Qb6 {8} 45. Ba3 {-10.87/13 8} Qxf2 {5} 0-1
...and this first 3 moves give me Steffen Jakob, but i wins:
[Event "30'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth,Eduard"]
[Black "Fritz 6b"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. a4 {0} a5 {0} 2. h4 {4} h5 {0} 3. d4 {4} d5 {0} 4. g3
{16} Nf6 {0.03/14 65} 5. c3 {7} g6 {0.03/16 52} 6. Bh3 {7}
Bxh3 {-0.41/15 46} 7. Nxh3 {16} Ra6 {-0.41/15 31} 8. Bg5
{13} Bg7 {-0.31/14 43} 9. Nd2 {8} Nbd7 {-0.31/13 51}
10. Kf1 {3} O-O {-0.56/12 33} 11. Nf3 {4} Ne4 {-0.63/13 63}
12. Kg2 {4} c6 {-0.53/12 56} 13. Qc1 {4} Rb6 {-0.59/13 109}
14. Bh6 {5} Bxh6 {-0.88/13 54} 15. Qxh6 {4} Rxb2 {-0.88/12
24} 16. Nf4 {16} Qe8 {-1.00/11 29} 17. Ng5 {11} Ndf6
{-1.00/12 27} 18. Rab1 {19} Rxb1 {-0.88/12 15} 19. Rxb1 {2}
Nxg5 {-0.81/12 24} 20. Qxg5 {9} Ne4 {-0.72/13 29} 21. Qh6
{6} b5 {-0.59/12 19} 22. axb5 {11} e5 {-0.34/12 17}
23. dxe5 {2} Qxe5 {-0.03/12 53} 24. bxc6 {6} Nxc3 {-0.09/11
22} 25. Rb7 {4} Qe4+ {0.47/11 49} 26. f3 {10} Qc2 {1.09/12
14} 27. Re7 {9} Qc1 {1.56/11 13} 28. Qg5 {16} Qe1 {2.03/11
17} 29. Nxg6 {11} Ne4 {9.59/13 32} 30. Rxe4 {10} dxe4
{10.94/12 11} 31. Ne7+ {19} Kh7 {11.03/13 18} 32. Qxh5+
{11} 1-0
All this was in Gambitsoft forum and i plaved all games soon.
You can ask Steffen Jakob! :)
Regards,
Eduard
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