Author: Chessfun
Date: 14:47:19 03/23/01
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On March 23, 2001 at 14:41:52, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On March 23, 2001 at 12:45:30, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>Well... they topped everybody's list for 3 years, but who cares. Missing a 7 >>round event by 1/2 point is what counts. >the list are no live events. in lists, played out somewhere, cheating and >manipulation cannot be controlled. >Such a "method" to test playing strength is not scientific. And the world championship is scientific? all that modification and book altering between rounds. >a live event cannot be manipulated. all other programmers or teams >are there to follow and can complain instantly. >there chessbase cannot win, although they have 4-6 times higher chances >due to several engines they start with. >reason ? Manipulated and modification to an engine or opening book isn't manipulation?. The reason they don't win is actually IMO pretty simple. These world championships are over a limited amount of games where luck plays a large role in the events. Luck in the choice of opening moves, luck in the drawing of colors against the stronger opponents. The SSDF playing 40 games contains no luck >i can tell you the reason. it's live. >if the chessbase programs playing in the ssdf list would be that strong, >they would have won in those 3 years, wouldn't they ? They are that strong as confirmed by most other testers. If Fritz 6 were not till recently the strongest program around what was? I to my knowledge have them all and nothing.....nothing has proved to be stronger than Fritz 6 during that period. And if those programs had played more games against each other IMO Fritz would have won all those 3 years. >if they do not win for years, they are not better, they are worse. LOL please...Winning a simple tourney don't make you better nor worse. The release of both Tiger 14 and Gambit 2 as Chessbase engines is something for all consumers to be happy about. Rebel will still work on Tiger 15 and Gambit 3 and in the meantime the consumer can use Tiger 14 and Gambit 2 in the great Fritz interface. >you know how those lists are beeing generated. Yes...do you?. Sarah.
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