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Subject: Re: why?

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 14:11:44 03/25/01

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On March 25, 2001 at 15:10:30, Pete Galati wrote:

>On March 25, 2001 at 11:58:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On March 25, 2001 at 03:07:00, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2001 at 01:17:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 25, 2001 at 00:51:04, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>(...) it claims that one of
>>>>>the things it automatically does is give you the ability to boot into Dos
>>>>>without having to cheat your way in with a system floppy.  But I've been
>>>>>procrastinating and haven't bought it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>Until WinME it was very easy to boot in Dos. So I guess the product is designed
>>>>to restore this useful feature to Windows ME?
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>There were freeware solutions published for that, but they do all kinds of
>>>changes as it seems, to sensible system files like command.com, io.sys etc.
>>>IIRC, and/or change the windows configration in conjunction with several
>>>mysterious winboot.bat, winstart.bat files or something like that... I use none
>>>of them.
>>>
>>>Windows Me still "allows" to make a bootable floppy, the system start disk. I
>>>reconfigured such a disk for my purposes, which has the advantage of avoiding
>>>any change to a windows or system file on harddisk. It's not very comfortable
>>>though...
>>
>>
>>Yes, that's what I do when I need to make an accurate measure of the speed of
>>Chess Tiger.
>>
>>
>>
>>> but I must be cautious; this system has only one of these recovery
>>>CD's, no complete Windows CD.
>>
>>
>>Brrr :(
>>
>>
>>>One problem of the floppy method is: If you want to suppress the loading of a
>>>XMS memory driver, this doesn't seem to be possible anymore (?). I don't know if
>>>custom DOS-boot methods allow this. Some older chess programs like Fritz 3,
>>>Hiarcs 3 (but also 7.01 I think) cannot allocate their large hash tables, when
>>>himem.sys or another XMS driver is loaded.
>>>
>>>Does somebody know more about that?
>>
>>
>>I noticed the same thing. You cannot get rid of this XMS driver anymore
>>apparently. It seems to be built in IO.SYS now.
>>
>>You could still use a DOS 6 floppy.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>I'll have to try using a Dos 6.22? system disc from on my old computer, cause
>I've still got the original OS and Windows 98 on that one.


I'm not sure I understand anymore.

If you have Windows 98 on this computer, you can boot in pure DOS by holding the
Ctrl key when the computer boots. You don't need any additional trick...



>This is basically all I know about System Commander, what I read one this page,
>http://www.v-com.com/product/sc2_ind.html , I still had a bookmark for some
>reason.  I don't really know if it's a ggod idea at all, but it looks like a
>cool idea, besides I've been thinking of partitioning and adding Windows 98
>anyhow, and I've been told that I don't get the same boot menu posibilities with
>ME, so I started looking at Sys Commander.


If I was you I would stick with Windows 98. Not that Windows ME is not good (I'm
using it at this time on my computer and I don't have more problems than with
Windows 98), but IMO it does not bring much over W98, and you lose some
interesting possibilities, like booting in DOS and support for older hardware.



    Christophe



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