Author: Pete Galati
Date: 15:02:13 03/25/01
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On March 25, 2001 at 17:11:44, Christophe Theron wrote: >On March 25, 2001 at 15:10:30, Pete Galati wrote: > >>On March 25, 2001 at 11:58:08, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On March 25, 2001 at 03:07:00, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>>On March 25, 2001 at 01:17:50, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 25, 2001 at 00:51:04, Pete Galati wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>(...) it claims that one of >>>>>>the things it automatically does is give you the ability to boot into Dos >>>>>>without having to cheat your way in with a system floppy. But I've been >>>>>>procrastinating and haven't bought it yet. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pete >>>>> >>>>>Until WinME it was very easy to boot in Dos. So I guess the product is designed >>>>>to restore this useful feature to Windows ME? >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>There were freeware solutions published for that, but they do all kinds of >>>>changes as it seems, to sensible system files like command.com, io.sys etc. >>>>IIRC, and/or change the windows configration in conjunction with several >>>>mysterious winboot.bat, winstart.bat files or something like that... I use none >>>>of them. >>>> >>>>Windows Me still "allows" to make a bootable floppy, the system start disk. I >>>>reconfigured such a disk for my purposes, which has the advantage of avoiding >>>>any change to a windows or system file on harddisk. It's not very comfortable >>>>though... >>> >>> >>>Yes, that's what I do when I need to make an accurate measure of the speed of >>>Chess Tiger. >>> >>> >>> >>>> but I must be cautious; this system has only one of these recovery >>>>CD's, no complete Windows CD. >>> >>> >>>Brrr :( >>> >>> >>>>One problem of the floppy method is: If you want to suppress the loading of a >>>>XMS memory driver, this doesn't seem to be possible anymore (?). I don't know if >>>>custom DOS-boot methods allow this. Some older chess programs like Fritz 3, >>>>Hiarcs 3 (but also 7.01 I think) cannot allocate their large hash tables, when >>>>himem.sys or another XMS driver is loaded. >>>> >>>>Does somebody know more about that? >>> >>> >>>I noticed the same thing. You cannot get rid of this XMS driver anymore >>>apparently. It seems to be built in IO.SYS now. >>> >>>You could still use a DOS 6 floppy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I'll have to try using a Dos 6.22? system disc from on my old computer, cause >>I've still got the original OS and Windows 98 on that one. > > >I'm not sure I understand anymore. > >If you have Windows 98 on this computer, you can boot in pure DOS by holding the >Ctrl key when the computer boots. You don't need any additional trick... No, that was my old computer that had 98 & Dos 6.22. When that other computer I tried to buy used never showed up, I needed to go out and buy something with more CPU power, so I got a very generic type of computer, and it had Windows ME on it. I didn't realize what a bad idea ME was till I lived with the thing for a while. I think I used to use Alt F4 to go to the old OS, or Alt F8 to go to the bootmenu. > > > >>This is basically all I know about System Commander, what I read one this page, >>http://www.v-com.com/product/sc2_ind.html , I still had a bookmark for some >>reason. I don't really know if it's a ggod idea at all, but it looks like a >>cool idea, besides I've been thinking of partitioning and adding Windows 98 >>anyhow, and I've been told that I don't get the same boot menu posibilities with >>ME, so I started looking at Sys Commander. > > >If I was you I would stick with Windows 98. Not that Windows ME is not good (I'm >using it at this time on my computer and I don't have more problems than with >Windows 98), but IMO it does not bring much over W98, and you lose some >interesting possibilities, like booting in DOS and support for older hardware. > > > > Christophe I agree, pass on ME. I'm starting to get it to work ok. Beleive it or not, it was a big improvement by turing off ME's ability to go on standby, that fixed the problem I was having with the mouse freezing up at least once a day. When I got this computer, I started asking around to see if I could use my Win98 upgrade CD to downgrade ME into 98, but everyone's telling me that's not a posibility. Pete
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