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Subject: Re: Not soluble for computer?

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 13:44:27 03/26/01

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On March 26, 2001 at 14:33:00, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 26, 2001 at 14:14:57, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>On March 23, 2001 at 01:54:29, Heinz-Josef Schumacher wrote:
>>
>>>The follow study is not soluble for progrms today!?
>>>
>>>5nr1/2Pp2pk/3Pp1p1/4P1P1/6P1/5K2/8/7n w - -
>>>
>>>http://homepages.compuserve.de/hjsxy/2.gif
>>>
>>>M.Judowitsch- Study 1976
>>>
>>>1.c8N!! [1.Kg2? Rh8 2.Kxh1 Kg8+ 3.Kg2 Rh4=).  1...Rh8 2.Ne7 Nf2 3.Kxf2 Rg8 4.Ke3
>>>Kh8 5.Kd4 Kh7 6.Kc5 Kh8 7.Kb6 Kh7 8.Kc7 Rh8 9.Kd8 Rg8 10.Ke8 Rh8 11.Kf7 Rg8
>>>12.Nxg8 Kh8 13.Kxf8 1-0
>>
>>My program Chest confirms, that after 8...Rh8 there is a mate in 12:
>>
>>9.Kd8 Rg8 10.Ke8 Kh8 11.Kf7 Kh7 12.Nxg8 Kh8 13.Ne7 Kh7 14.Kxf8 Kh8 15.Ke8 Kh7
>>16.Kxd7 Kh8 17.Kc7 Kh7 18.d7 Kh8 19.d8=Q+ Kh7 20.Qg8#
>>
>>When I went back one more move of the intended solution, Chest refutes
>>8.Kc7 with Kh8 instead of Rh8, with the following line:
>>8.Kc7 Kh8 9.Kd8? Nh7+!, avoiding the mate with Nxg6.
>>
>>Neither I nor Chest have found a solution here, so it may be a refutation
>>of the study, but I doubt it.  Does anyone know better?
>>
>>Heiner
>
>Yes
>9.Kd8 is winning

Thanks!  I have played it out a bit with crafty, and now I see it also.
But it is too deep for chest, at least without EGTBs.

Heiner


>see
>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?159831
>
>The line that I posted is not the same but the position at move 9 of white is
>the same.
>
>Yace can see without learning +1.37 for white in a few minutes for 9.Kd8
>
>Uri



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