Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 05:00:44 03/27/01
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On March 26, 2001 at 22:47:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 26, 2001 at 21:52:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On March 26, 2001 at 21:35:51, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On March 26, 2001 at 20:06:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On March 26, 2001 at 18:49:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 26, 2001 at 18:35:17, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Christophe, >>>>>> >>>>>>a very interesting and good message, like that ! >>>>>> >>>>>>Now a little bit in my superb English :-)) >>>>>> >>>>>>01. I believe you forget the important factor, that you can playing engine - >>>>>>engine matches on a dual system with ponder! An interesting player must not buy >>>>>>a second computer and an autoplayer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I do not disagree, but my post was about the increase in playing strength from a >>>>>dual system. Maybe it was directed more at those who think that they are going >>>>>to crush everybody on the chess servers with an expensive dual system. :) >>>> >>>>I think those persons are not completely insane then, because >>>>in blitz programs search to very shallow depths. Especially the so called >>>>3 0 matches which are popular (i personally never play with diep 3 0 >>>>against other engines as i don't care about that level as debugging >>>>such a game costs me more time as the game itself costs for sure, not >>>>to mention that the scores scroll too quick on my screen with 3 0 and >>>>the shallow depths make the game not very serious representing tournament >>>>level). >>>> >>>>Most people who are running a prog on a chess server kick only on dick >>>>height. In that respect a dual is a good thing for them. As in blitz it's >>>>not 20 points or so it's more like 150 to 200 rating points at least >>>>difference. >>> >>> >>>Your 150 to 200 elo figure is nonsense. >> >>I remember the first duals coming into ICC. >>Ratings jumped up. DIEP got completely annihilated by crafty >>when they arrived. >> >>Nonsense? >> >>Your words! >> >>Diep single cpu 450PII 6 ply in blitz. >>Diep dual 800 cpu 8-9 ply blitz. >> >>Pick the rating difference... >> > > PIII core is nearly 18% faster as a PII core for DIEP. More hashtables etcetera. The comparision is never fair of course. I had a 450PII 128mb RAM then bought a dual 256MB PIII800. That's how one must compare, *not* same Mhz versus same Mhz! >I don't quite see how you get 2-3 more plies from a dual 800 over a single >450, nor do I understand why you compare the dual 800 to the single 450. On >a pure mhz basis, you are comparing 1600 to 450, which is almost a factor of >4. I can see 1+ plies with a factor of 4. I can't see 2-3 unless you are >talking simple endgames... > > > > >>> >>> >>> Christophe
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