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Subject: Re: First miniature win against crafty, but a hollow victory it is :(

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:49:49 03/27/01

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On March 27, 2001 at 17:47:31, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 27, 2001 at 15:25:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 27, 2001 at 13:10:03, ERIQ wrote:
>>
>>>Hey this is my first win against a senior master player that was a miniature :)
>>>so first I would like to thank all the people that helped me get where I am
>>>today.
>>>
>>> Mr. Brown a correspondence expert that show me this line About a month ago. Dr.
>>>Hyatt for his fine program. Myself for setting the resign threshold to 3. Woops
>>>maybe shouldn?t have mentioned that.
>>>
>>>Actually I was wondering If this wasn?t just a bad line and if so why is it in
>>>opening books ?? This seems to just get black killed right away. Sorry I guess
>>>this is more a chess question than a computer one. I after the surprising
>>>resignation of crafty decided to let tiger play it out with crafty to see if
>>>indeed it was just that bad of a situation.
>>
>>
>>It is just a bad book line.  On my machine, crafty comes out of book at
>>+4.5 (good for white) the first time it has to think.  It would not normally
>>play such a gross line except that the book is set to play fairly wide choices
>>to provide variety.
>
>It does not prove that the line is bad.
>Programs can be wrong in their evaluation.
>
>White has a rook and a pawn for a knight but all the pieces are on the board.
>
>I am not convinced that white is winning.
>
>It will be interesting to see if Crafty can win with white against other chess
>programs from this opening.
>
>Uri


Good question.  A few months back I posted a similar game against a GM, where
Crafty came out of book at -5, but went on to build a vicious attack and win
the game.  However, against a computer, I think such lines are suspect, to say
the least...



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