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Subject: Re: Some thoughts for those who are considering to buy a Dual processor PC

Author: Benny Ng

Date: 23:30:35 03/27/01

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On March 27, 2001 at 22:03:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 27, 2001 at 18:12:42, Christophe Theron wrote:
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>>On March 27, 2001 at 14:08:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>On March 27, 2001 at 12:55:10, Christophe Theron wrote:
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>>>>That's right.
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>>>>Actually as the title says, the message is directed to people who are
>>>>considering to buy a dual.
>>>>
>>>>As far as I know quads are so expensive that it would be ridiculous to buy one
>>>>just to play chess.
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>>>At the moment, perhaps.  6 years ago duals were just as expensive.  Now they
>>>are dirt cheap.  As quads become more common, their prices will continue to
>>>drop.  5 years ago a quad MB for pentium pro 200s would set you back almost
>>>$8,000.  Today you can buy an Intel SC450NX for 2500 bucks, that includes
>>>three hot-swappable 400 wat power supplies, motherboard, 6-slot hot-swap raid
>>>disk cage, 3 on-board scsi controllers, 1 on-board video controller, etc.
>>>
>>>All you lack is cpus, memory and drives.
>>>
>>>That is a huge reduction.  The curve is going downward each year.  Now the
>>>quads are slowly reaching reasonable price points while the 8-way boxes are
>>>way expensive.  In 5 years that too will change I'll bet...
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>>So I would advice people who are considering buying a dual right now to delay
>>their buy by several years...
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>Using that logic you should advise everyone to _never_ buy a computer, because
>next year will _always_ have a faster processor.
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>>>>You are always thinking with unlimited resources in mind!
>>>>
>>>>I don't disagree with you here, but in real life there are people wondering if
>>>>it's worth it to buy a dual.
>>>>
>>>>And depending on how much money they can put on it, they will have to choose
>>>>between a single 1.GHz and a dual 1GHz.
>>>
>>>OK...  but there the dual will perform like a 1.7ghz machine.  Which will
>>>turn into around 60 rating points improvement.  That is not trivially
>>>ignorable.
>>>
>>>Each time I teach a parallel programming course here, I will find around one
>>>out of every 10 students has a dual-processor machine already.  And when I ask
>>>what they paid, they generally say 500-1000 US bucks...
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>>In the place I live, I cannot even buy a dual. I must order it overseas.
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>>Bob, there are people outside the United State of America, you know.
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>I ordered mine.  There is no "local store" that sells quads here.  You can
>go to any local computer store and find a dual however...  Gateway even sells
>them at the local outlet..
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>>You are very lucky to live in a place where you can get all kind of high tech
>>stuffs for a fraction of your monthly salary, but in other countries a dual
>>represents a huge amount of money.
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>A dual represents 500 bucks for 2x800 or so.  I don't know what the exchange
>rate is, but that can't be huge...
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>>For example, a dual represents more than my average monthly salary.
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>You _really_ make less than $500 US dollars per month?

It's hard to compare monthly salary between countries, especially with US. My
salary as a computer programmer in Indonesia back in 1999 was $250! That was
before I move to Singapore. But still, the salary in Singapore is not as high as
US! :(

Cheers,

Benny Ng



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