Author: Joshua Lee
Date: 16:15:43 03/28/01
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How about all of these calculations are they in relation to elo vs humans or vs computers? SSDF can say doubling is worth 79elo points all they want but that doen't mean jack when their rating for fritz on slower hardware is a higher rating than what Fritz Achieved on hardware thats over 3.4x faster!!! recheck your data if you really want to speculate try analyzing any game of the Dutch championship untill your copy of fritz gets plays the same move deep fritz in the dutch championship made. You will be surprised, I have done this and if they were running a quad 500 it is more than 3x faster than a single 500!!! Now i cant get fritz to play all the same moves but for the most part it does now their server has who knows how much memory while i can only use 64meg out of 192 so this may have something to do with it. This also works for Junior and others as well. Ok so you've figured out how much time your 500 takes in relation to their server take your ssdf rating and subtract the difference and you sit there and tell me they are right not going to happen. On a 500Mhz P3 and 500Mhz Athlon fritz managed 2457elo out of 11 games i believe so if you want you can call this still provisional. now a 500 is faster than a 450 K6-2 ssdf has fritz at over 2600 yea right i really believe fritz on a 450 can play like GM Nunn Also Junior in dortmund recieved a 2702 provisional on a machine which was faster than if you took the SSDF's Hardware and tripled it 2 times .....we can take your figures or we can take fact. every triple is worth 90 points Prof. Hyatt wasn't clear if this was human elo or computer-v computer elo but just for this we will say it is for humans 2702-180 =2522 well they are pretty close on this one they have junior at 2589?? But there is also estimation by doubling 79 points ... 450 ... 900...1800...3600 well over 237points which also is around the difference between fritz at the Dutch tournament and on a 500Mhz Athlon Check out Tony-Hedlunds page sometime while he dosen't list every match there is quite a bit. the only way their figures would be worth anything is if they added a match for each top program against an IM or GM some 40 games at Tournament time controls and then raised or lowerd the overall results in such a way. But that is another message that they just wouldn't listen to so then i'd be wasting my breath. I think it's clear we shouldn't use any figures from SSDF.
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