Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:34:59 03/30/01
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On March 30, 2001 at 11:38:52, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 30, 2001 at 09:20:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On March 29, 2001 at 16:54:11, Rajen Gupta wrote: >> >>>On March 28, 2001 at 23:14:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On March 28, 2001 at 16:38:31, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>>>chinook ckeckers, (the checkers equivalent of deep blue)is ready to face all >>>>>comers on its web site(admittedly a single processor version, but the same >>>>>software)why cant deep blue or even deep blue junior do the same? is it because >>>>>it is scared of being exposed for what it really is? >>>>> >>>>>rajen >>>> >>>> >>>>Why would they be afraid to expose it as an incredible chess-playing >>>>machine? Can't we figure that out from the Kasparov match? >>> >>> >>>perhaps not very incredible-may have just got lucky with a nervous kasparov and >>>may find the new ''deep programmes''a different cup of tea >>> >>>rajen >> >> >>It would be quite interesting for someone to take one of today's programs that >>can search 1M nodes per second, and play a match vs a 20 year old program that >>is given 1,000 times as much time per move. Do you _really_ think that a >>program of today would do all that well against (say) chess genius 2, with >>genius having a 1,000 time advantage? > >I guess that it depends on the time control and when the time control is slower >the top program of today is going to have better results. > >If you play >1 second per move for Gambit2 against 1000 second per move for Genius2 then I >expect Genius2 to win convincingly. > >If you play 180 seconds per move for Gambit2 against 180000 seconds per move for >Genius2 then I expect a result of 50%. >Unfortunately one game in the last case may take some monthes. > >I can add also that Genius2 is less than 20 years old. > >Uri I think you would be surprised. IE I don't have any particular bit of knowledge in Crafty that I didn't have in Cray Blitz. Maybe a few small things here and there, but then again, there was definitely knowledge in Cray Blitz that would not do well in Crafty due to hardware platform limitations of the PC. I _know_ I would not want to play Crafty vs Cray Blitz and give Cray Blitz a 1000:1 time advantage. Not _ever_. Any more than I want to race a horse for a mile with me using my own two feet. There are some things that I know I can't win without actually having to try them...
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