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Subject: Re: SSDF CM8000-Deep Fritz: 0 - 2 Now: 1 - 7

Author: Chessfun

Date: 22:57:26 03/31/01

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On March 31, 2001 at 19:54:06, Jason Williamson wrote:

>On March 31, 2001 at 19:50:00, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2001 at 02:25:48, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On March 30, 2001 at 14:02:23, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 30, 2001 at 03:45:40, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 29, 2001 at 01:18:32, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Where are now all CM enthusiasts?! What do they say? Pichard?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd like to read some comments about
>>>>>
>>>>>1. opening book
>>>>>2. hash size
>>>>>3. time control
>>>>>
>>>>>1. is a known problem that there is only a small and not adjusted opening book.
>>>>>2. is only unclear
>>>>>3. There have been reported some bugs with some time controls; is there some
>>>>>fast moving or other strange behaviour in the games so far?
>>>>
>>>>1. The opening book is not THAT small, as it has approximately 45,000 moves in
>>>>it (although many of them will not be played and they are just there in case the
>>>>opponent plays them). But, yes, there is no book learning in the program.
>>>>
>>>>2. For 40/120 games, Johan suggests a 32MB hash table (or perhaps a 64MB for a
>>>>VERY fast processor). The SSDF is using a 32MB hash table.
>>>>
>>>>3. The SSDF is using the patched version, so there is no problem with certain
>>>>time controls.
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>So what kind of explanation would you give for this ugly result against DF so
>>>far? :-)
>>
>>Obviously, it is some combination of the following two things:
>>
>>1) Deep Fritz being a better program, and
>>2) Randomness
>>
>>This result could be caused by anything from all #1 to all #2, and every
>>possibility in between.
>>
>>There is nowhere near enough data to come to any conclusion, of course.
>>
>>jm
>
>To test out this auto232 autoplayer program, I did a match between Deep Fritz
>and CM8000 at a 10 minutes with a 10 second increment time control.  Deep Fritz
>won this match in 21 games with a score of 12.5-8.5 (Deep Fritz won 6 games in a
>row at one point to take the lead.)  The match was  abest of 24.
>
>JW


I also ran a match with Deep Fritz and CM8K about a month ago
autoplayed on two 945 mhz Thunderbirds at 60 minutes and I think
3 secs inc.

Deep Fritz won something like +6 -1 =3.

Sarah.







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