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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger vs. The Web ... not easy the position ...

Author: Hristo

Date: 02:55:22 04/03/01

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On April 02, 2001 at 22:38:03, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 02, 2001 at 22:31:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2001 at 21:59:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On April 02, 2001 at 17:52:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 02, 2001 at 16:17:16, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 02, 2001 at 16:07:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 02, 2001 at 15:50:24, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>in the game Chess Tiger vs. The Web ...
>>>>>>>http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the position is not easy for The Web. White have at the moment all important
>>>>>>>fields and black not a very good plan. So I think an idea is to play h5 later
>>>>>>>Ng8 - Ne7 to have here more possibiliys on the king side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We will see ... interesting ... !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best
>>>>>>>Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If white can't win with a king-side attack it is going to lose miserably in
>>>>>>the endgame.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not understand the basis for this remark.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't see any long term weakness in white's position. So what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All you have to do is look at the board.  White has weaknesses _everywhere_
>>>>
>>>>Every time you push a pawn, you create a weakness...  white has pushed
>>>>several.  I would suggest asking a good IM/GM as to how this looks.  To me,
>>>>white had better roll on the kingside before the endgame arrives.  Otherwise
>>>>black can infiltrate wherever he wants, while white will be tied to defending
>>>>all the weak squares he has created with those pawn pushes...
>>>
>>>
>>>Weaknesses?
>>>
>>>Well I'm not a strong player, but I don't see weaknesses in white's pawn
>>>structure.
>>>
>>>But I can see very poor mobility on black side.
>>>
>>>I would not dare to say that white has a better position, but I wouldn't either
>>>say that it has a lost endgame...
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>with just a quick look, if you take the pieces off, black can enter white's
>>position on either side of the board.  White can't do the same to black.  White
>>has weak squares on the h-file since the g-pawn has moved.
>
>
>So white has just to play h4...
>
>
>>  White has weak
>>squares on the queen-side since a3 has been played.
>
>
>So white has just to play b4...
>
>
>>not that these are critical weaknesses now.  But as the game progresses toward
>>the endgame, I would want to be black.  Right now I would probably want to be
>>white, but not by a big margin.  Black looks solid to me...  I just don't like
>>all the wild pawn pushes by white.  White had better capitalize on those pushes
>>pretty soon, or else black gets a paved road into the white position.
>
>
>
>I understand what you say but I think you overestimate the weaknesses of the
>white pawn structure. There is nothing unfixable here, and the space advantage
>is worth it I think.

Christophe,
here is a possible continuation that proves that black have (could)
comfortable game.
13. ... Be7 14.Ne2 (?!) 0-0 15. Bd3 Rfc8 16. Rc1 Be8 17. Nc5 Na5  =
or there abouts.
White have more space but they are not coordinated enough, yet, to
support it all. Black can choose multitude of ways to counter. However
black can not be passive and they should jab on the queen side with
uppercut in the center. One of the white bishops is cut-off the queen side
and the night on b3 should be moved as soon as possible.

regards.
hristo




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>    Christophe



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