Author: John Merlino
Date: 10:51:29 04/03/01
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On April 03, 2001 at 01:19:34, Brian Kostick wrote:
>On April 02, 2001 at 20:33:40, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2001 at 17:30:18, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>Hi John,
>>>
>>>>I don't know if you were aware of CM8000 vs. The Web, but it appears that The
>>>>Web (as White) has already lost the game before the 20th move! The URL is
>>>>
>>>>www.chessbrain.de/cd/ce/ce.html
>>>>
>>>>My quick analysis of the current position using CM8000 shows that, if The Web
>>>>plays 21.Bf4 (the current leading move), then it will get REALLY ugly! (21...Nc6
>>>>22.Qa4 Bxd4! 23.Bxb8 Bxf2+!)
>>>
>>>Interesting game !
>>>I vote for Nb3, I believe the Queen must have a better field.
>>>
>>>But very interesting your analysis, must make later a analyses with my chess
>>>programs :-)
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>The Web made an error with 11.Nbd2, and it's all been (slowly) getting worse for
>>White after that, as that move really cramped White's mobility and development.
>>
>>Looking forward to your analysis,
>>
>>jm
>
> Boy, a tough choice where to hop in the thread with my $0.02! Sometimes it
>seems like you just need to roll the marbles in your palm rather than act brazen
>so I voted Nb3.
>
> If 21. Bf4 Nc6 22. Qa4 Bxd4 maybe 23. h3 ... I couldn't think all that hard.
>Anyway, who knows what "The Web" will do. This would puts us down a pawn +/- any
>positional points. If "The Web" plays poorly and I have to lick Mr. Corbit's
>boots for what I said in another thread.....
>
> John, You mentioned move 11. I would have liked maybe 11. Ne5 as in Kasparov
>vs. Shirov 1-0, Corus 2001, but water under the bridge now. Also I liked the
>idea of logging the moves with email address, seems the format has changed some
>with this move? Amateur commentary by, Brian K.
MCO-14 agrees with you:
"Sharp tactics follow after 10...Bg4 11.Ne5 Bxe5 12.dxe5 Nac5 13.f3 Nxd3 14.Qxd3
Nc5 15.Qd4 Nb3 16.Qxg4 Nxa1 17.Bh6 g6 18.cxd5 Qxd5 19.Nc3 Qc5+ 20.Kh1 Nb3 21.Qf4
Rfe8 22.Ne4 Qxe5 23.Nf6+ Kh8 24.Qh4 Re6 {unclear}, Giaccio-Ginzburg, Argentinian
Chp., 1998. This may be Black's objectively best continuation, but he must
defend coolly."
This, of course, would have been much more exciting, but I still wouldn't throw
in the towel yet as White. There might be something down the road.
CM8000's Analysis of the current position:
Time Depth Score Positions Moves
0:00 2/5 -1.06 12980 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. Bxb8 Rxb8 24.
Qb5 Qh6
0:00 2/6 -1.32 41723 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. Bxb8 Rxb8 24.
Nb3 Bxb2
0:01 2/6 -1.23 57298 22. Qb5 Nxd4 23. Qa4 Rbd8 24. Re7
Be2
0:03 3/7 -1.52 204360 22. Qb5 Rbd8 23. Be2 Nxd4 24. Bxg4
Qxg4 25. Qd3 Rfe8 26. Bd6
0:12 3/8 -1.41 765507 22. Qb5 Rbd8 23. Rac1 Bxd4 24.
Be3 Bxe3 25. fxe3 Ne5 26. Rc7
0:17 3/8 -0.90 1053685 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. Bxb8 Rxb8 24.
h4 Rd8 25. Qb5 Bb6 26. Rac1
0:29 4/9 -0.90 1918164 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. Bxb8 Rxb8 24.
h4 Rd8 25. Qb5 Bb6 26. Rac1
1:44 4/10 -1.28 7391372 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. h4 Rbe8 24. Qb5
Rxe1+ 25. Rxe1 Bb6 26. Kg2 Nd4
27. Qe8 f6
5:41 5/11 -1.38 25939317 22. Qa4 Bxd4 23. h4 Rbc8 24. Rac1
Bb6 25. Kg2 Rfe8 26. f3 Bf5 27.
Qb3 Qg6
So, maybe 23.h4 instead of h3?
jm
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