Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:02:04 04/04/01
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On April 04, 2001 at 10:26:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >Sorry i should call it "World versus Shredder" >like homepage says. > >BUT WHY DOES SHREDDER PLAY WHITE? > >that's unfair like in tiger-world where tiger is already won out of >book and now it's just a matter of a few moves. > >In all positions as selected at http://www.gambitsoft.net/_shredder/ >there white has practical big advantage to play. Not a single opening >where shredder plays bad either with white. > >Like in the french line he chose the bad Qc7 line instead of the best >move O-O. > >However the majority of those positions with black is an absolute nightmare. > >Except of course the spanish/ruy lopez line where better book is always >more convincing as how you play, as the opening is too difficult for >programs anyway. > >Anyway a quote from Necchi on the homepage: > >"I have searched good positions for the match Deep Shredder vs. The World ..." > >Yeah he sure did. > >Why do all those program versus world matches take white anyway? >I mean the average level on the world is like 1500, so if dudes play >without computer you'll see 1500 moves. > >So it's a sure win anyway as the average move is real bad. > >the average computer move isn't good either. Many 1900 rated dedicated >computers still getting used. I do not believe it. I know that computers often lose in these matches. Fritz lost against germany. Gandalf also lost against the web. The web had more time to calculate in this match but it is clear that your theory is wrong otherwise Fritz and Gandalf could win easily. I guess that the average move is a very good move simply because of the fact that few good players with a lot of friends always get the majority. The good players may be top chess programs on good hardware or humans who use the programs and choose the moves of the program in almost 100% of the cases. Uri
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