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Subject: Re: AMAZING results. Congratulations for Christophe!

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:52:57 04/04/01

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On April 04, 2001 at 10:43:24, stuart taylor wrote:

>On April 04, 2001 at 09:13:03, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On April 04, 2001 at 09:00:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 04, 2001 at 08:54:59, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bullet 1 minute/game matches on ERT:
>>>>
>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x Yace 0.99    76 x 24
>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x Crafty 18.1  66,5 x 33,5
>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x LG2000v2.9   90 x 10 !!!!!
>>>>
>>>>A. Ponti
>>>
>>>how about setting both engines to 'instant move'
>>>and then play a few thousands of games?
>>
>>Oh my god
>
>If Kramnik or Kasparov were playing at instant time, or even 1 minute per game,
>I think their level of play would be quite weak.
>  I don't see the real need of concentrating on making programs to play 2-300
>elo points higher on lightning speed than at longer controls, much more so than
>the way humans do it.
>  I don't even see what the great fun is in testing it. It's a little bit
>interesting, but not all that much. I don't think it can be used to demonstrate
>the quality of the program. Maybe the contrary is true, as the longer timings
>are the interesting thing.
>S.Taylor



When you get a new program I think it's quite natural to begin with fast time
controls, so you get an overview on a large number of games in a reasonnable
amount of time.

Do you think Aloiso is going to stop now? I guess he is going to try longer time
controls.

Fast time controls are also important because they are commonly used on the
chess servers.

Another thing to consider is that game in one minute on a PIII-800 computer must
be something like game in 4 hours on the hardware of 10 years ago.

If 10 years ago you or other chess enthusiasts were interested in games in 4
hours, then I don't understand why you would regard game in 1 minute on today's
computers with such contempt. These games show probably an even better chess
level (because software has been vastly improved).

And finally, you could complain if the program in question (Tiger) was only
specialized for fast time controls, but as you will see it is not.



    Christophe



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