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Subject: Re: SSDF CM8000 - Deep Fritz: 0,5 - 3,5 Now: 3,5- 15,5

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 13:46:50 04/04/01

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On April 04, 2001 at 13:59:28, John Merlino wrote:

>On April 04, 2001 at 07:40:13, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On April 04, 2001 at 06:36:47, Daniel Chancey wrote:
>>
>>>The CM program is not weak   but it's not a good anti-fritz program.   Also the
>>>personality used is slightly inferior.      CM has a small book, no book
>>>learning, no tablebases.   Much of Chessmaster was focused to help human players
>>>inprove their game.      When the best Chessmaster personality is found,  a
>>>match between Deep Fritz under same conditions is necessary.
>>>
>>>Castle2000
>>
>>Why all these excuses as to why CM8 plays poorly, you are right it was intended
>>to be a learning program and it does a heck of a job at just that, but then
>>again it takes away from the playing strenght, which becomes more and more
>>obvious. The idea of testing a program in the first place is to test the
>>strenght of a prog, and you dont see Deep Fritz needing anti CM8, CT14, GT2,
>>Nimzo8 etc in order to be a dominating factor in the world of cpu chess!
>>When i tested Gandalf against CM8 gandalf absolutly crushed CM8, so did
>>Crafty1714, yace and wbnimzo2000b, CM8 simply failed to win a tournament against
>>any of the above mentioned, this was at long tounament time controls with a
>>litlle fischer time added to compensate for CM8's poor handling of time.
>>On my T-bird 1.3ghz 512 ram.
>>If you manage to find a setting that will match the play of Deep Fritz (which i
>>doubt) or any other top prog, then it would suggest that CM8 play very
>>unbalanced if it needs a different setting for each top program.
>>If CM9 will support book.lrn, tb's etc. have a better book and is bugfree to the
>>point where it pays to buy the prog, then i think it might be up there with the
>>other progs!
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>
>Jonas,
>
>When you did these tests, did you have the patched version? Since the patch was
>released, nobody has complained about "CM8's poor handling of time".
>
>jm

No i must admit i did not run those tournaments with the patch, also i have just
got the autoplayer up and running with CM8 (now patched) and i am at the moment
playing a match 40/120 CM8 against Deep Firtz.
CM8 on an athlon 1.3 ghz and Deep Fritz on an athlon 900 mhz and CM is looking
good, so maby i'll prove myself wrong. I will do some heavy testing on CM8
versus my chessbase army and i will post results here and see how the patched
ver. is doing :-)

Regards
Jonas



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