Author: James T. Walker
Date: 13:49:00 04/04/01
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On April 04, 2001 at 13:41:47, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 04, 2001 at 10:43:24, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On April 04, 2001 at 09:13:03, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>On April 04, 2001 at 09:00:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 04, 2001 at 08:54:59, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >>>> >>>>>Bullet 1 minute/game matches on ERT: >>>>> >>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x Yace 0.99 76 x 24 >>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x Crafty 18.1 66,5 x 33,5 >>>>>Gambit Tiger 2 x LG2000v2.9 90 x 10 !!!!! >>>>> >>>>>A. Ponti >>>> >>>>how about setting both engines to 'instant move' >>>>and then play a few thousands of games? >>> >>>Oh my god >> >>If Kramnik or Kasparov were playing at instant time, or even 1 minute per game, >>I think their level of play would be quite weak. >> I don't see the real need of concentrating on making programs to play 2-300 >>elo points higher on lightning speed than at longer controls, much more so than >>the way humans do it. >> I don't even see what the great fun is in testing it. It's a little bit >>interesting, but not all that much. I don't think it can be used to demonstrate >>the quality of the program. Maybe the contrary is true, as the longer timings >>are the interesting thing. >>S.Taylor > >There can be big differences depending upon search depth. > >If a program gets 11-13 ply at slow level time controls and >if the same program gets like 6 ply at 1 0 games, > >then that's going to give a completely different picture as >a program that gets 9 ply at bullet and 14-15 ply in slow level. > >Yes the difference in playing strength (let's not discuss ICC >rating here as the rating is different calculated as the FIDE rating >calculations are done which explains the weird ratings at icc) is >way more as 300 points then. > >My proof is easy. Play a program at 1 0 without permanent brain >against other progs at 40 in 2 level. > >You'll see a 100% score then. > >100% score is abvoe 750 rating poitns difference. >So it's not 200-300 rating poitns diff, it's way more as that! Here you are again Vincent, Complaining about post concerning the Tiger's. You seem to be blinded by insane jealousy. Don't you understand this is a Computer Chess forum. Some people like Bullet Chess. Some people like to test their programs at that speed. It's popularity is unquestioned on ICC/FICS. Just because Diep is not very good at Bullet Chess you want to take pot shots at peoples post concerning it. This is especially true if Tiger is involved. Why don't you crawl back into your hole and let people here enjoy and discuss whatever they like without you trying to tell them what is relevant and what is not. Jim
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