Author: John Merlino
Date: 14:24:59 04/04/01
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On April 04, 2001 at 16:46:50, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >On April 04, 2001 at 13:59:28, John Merlino wrote: > >>On April 04, 2001 at 07:40:13, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>On April 04, 2001 at 06:36:47, Daniel Chancey wrote: >>> >>>>The CM program is not weak but it's not a good anti-fritz program. Also the >>>>personality used is slightly inferior. CM has a small book, no book >>>>learning, no tablebases. Much of Chessmaster was focused to help human players >>>>inprove their game. When the best Chessmaster personality is found, a >>>>match between Deep Fritz under same conditions is necessary. >>>> >>>>Castle2000 >>> >>>Why all these excuses as to why CM8 plays poorly, you are right it was intended >>>to be a learning program and it does a heck of a job at just that, but then >>>again it takes away from the playing strenght, which becomes more and more >>>obvious. The idea of testing a program in the first place is to test the >>>strenght of a prog, and you dont see Deep Fritz needing anti CM8, CT14, GT2, >>>Nimzo8 etc in order to be a dominating factor in the world of cpu chess! >>>When i tested Gandalf against CM8 gandalf absolutly crushed CM8, so did >>>Crafty1714, yace and wbnimzo2000b, CM8 simply failed to win a tournament against >>>any of the above mentioned, this was at long tounament time controls with a >>>litlle fischer time added to compensate for CM8's poor handling of time. >>>On my T-bird 1.3ghz 512 ram. >>>If you manage to find a setting that will match the play of Deep Fritz (which i >>>doubt) or any other top prog, then it would suggest that CM8 play very >>>unbalanced if it needs a different setting for each top program. >>>If CM9 will support book.lrn, tb's etc. have a better book and is bugfree to the >>>point where it pays to buy the prog, then i think it might be up there with the >>>other progs! >>> >>>Regards >>>Jonas >> >>Jonas, >> >>When you did these tests, did you have the patched version? Since the patch was >>released, nobody has complained about "CM8's poor handling of time". >> >>jm > >No i must admit i did not run those tournaments with the patch, also i have just >got the autoplayer up and running with CM8 (now patched) and i am at the moment >playing a match 40/120 CM8 against Deep Firtz. >CM8 on an athlon 1.3 ghz and Deep Fritz on an athlon 900 mhz and CM is looking >good, so maby i'll prove myself wrong. I will do some heavy testing on CM8 >versus my chessbase army and i will post results here and see how the patched >ver. is doing :-) > >Regards >Jonas Ok, good! Phew! You had me worried.... Too bad you don't test for the SSDF, assuming "looking good" means "giving DF a decent match". ;-) jm
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