Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:06:24 04/04/01
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On April 05, 2001 at 00:11:31, Terry McCracken wrote: >On April 04, 2001 at 21:42:01, Eelco de Groot wrote: > >>On April 04, 2001 at 19:51:30, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On April 04, 2001 at 18:18:40, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>The Winner for the Free Rebel Tiger product was Mario Saenz he and his Fritz 6 >>>>program and of course luck according to him selected five out of five Starting >>>>from last Wenesday. The two closest rivals with 4 points each out of 5 possible >>>>were Christian Robakowski and Jim Walker. Now remember that monday I started to >>>>record everybody moves for the DGT Board until the end of the match, in order to >>>>select the person with the highest percentage of the most selected moves for the >>>>entire game. Plus tomorrow I will start to record everybody moves for the next >>>>weekly Rebel Prize. >>>> >>> >>>PS: The next move is 14.Ne2 which will be updated as soon as Mr Schroeder has a >>>chance. >>> >>>http://www.rebel.nl/gt2-web.htm >>> >>>>Pichard. >> >> >>I like the idea of putting up the evaluations of Gambit Tiger 2.0 and Rebel >>Century 3.0, Jorge! Also the results at about 3 min/move etc. would be nice to >>compare but just the PVs at greater depths is also nice. I suppose the Fritzes >>and ChessMasters are responsible for 13. ..Be7? Q5T not so enthusiastic. What >>do other programs think? Q5T's logged results so far, I used Alt/Tab again to >>get here, I hope the Q5T in Century 3 is still running.. >> >> >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ - >>8 | *R| | | | *K| | | *R| >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 00:00:00 00:00:00 >>7 | *p| *p| | *B| *B| *p| *p| *p| >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >>6 | | | *N| | *p| *N| | | Time infinite >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Hash 28 Mb >>5 | | B | | *p| | | | | Engine Rebel Century 3.0 >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Personality Q5T3W5.ENG >>4 | | | | p | | B | p | | anti-GM Off >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Tactics Off >>3 | p | N | | | p | p | | | Bluff Chess Off >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Style Normal >>2 | | p | | | N | | | p | Strength Strongest >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Search Deeper Search >>1 | R | | | | K | | | R | >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 13.. a2-a3 Bf8-e7 >> a b c d e f g h 14.. Ng1-e2 >> >>[D]r3k2r/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/1B1p4/3P1BP1/PN2PP2/1P2N2P/R3K2R b KQkq - >> >>[Event "?"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "??.??.????"] >>[Round "?"] >>[White ""] >>[Black ""] >>[Result "*"] >>[WhiteElo "?"] >>[BlackElo "?"] >>[ECO "A45"] >> >>1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 Ne4 3.Bf4 c5 4.f3 Qa5 5.c3 Nf6 6.Nd2 cxd4 7.Nb3 Qb6 >>8.Qxd4 Qxd4 9.cxd4 d5 10.e3 e6 11.g4 Nc6 12.Bb5 Bd7 13.a3 Be7 14.Ne2 >>* >> >>00:00:00 1.00 -0.10 14..O-O >>00:00:00 1.01 -0.09 14..O-O-O >>00:00:00 1.11 -0.05 14..Rc8 >>00:00:00 2.00 -0.24 14..Rc8 15.Rc1 >>00:00:00 2.09 -0.06 14..a6 15.Bd3 >>00:00:00 3.00 -0.12 14..a6 15.Bxc6 Bxc6 16.Rc1 >>00:00:00 4.00 -0.12 14..a6 15.Bd3 h5 16.g5 >>00:00:00 4.04 -0.05 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.Rc1 Rc8 >> 17.Nc5 (0) >> >>00:00:00 5.00 -0.05 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.Rc1 Rc8 >> 17.Nc5 Ke8 (0) >> >>00:00:00 5.01 -0.04 14..a6 15.Bd3 Rc8 16.Rc1 O-O >>00:00:00 6.00 -0.18 14..a6 15.Bd3 Rc8 16.Rc1 h5 17.g5 >>00:00:00 6.01 0.02 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.Rc1 Rc8 >> 17.Kf2 Nc6 (0) >> >>00:00:01 7.00 0.00 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.Rc1 Rc8 >> 17.Rxc8 Kxc8 18.g5 Nd7 (1) >> >>00:00:02 8.00 -0.03 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.Rc1 Rc8 >> 17.Kf2 Nc6 18.g5 Nh5 (2) >> >>00:00:08 9.00 -0.02 14..Nd8 15.Bxd7+ Nxd7 16.Rc1 Nb6 >> 17.Kf2 Nc4 18.e4 Nxb2 19.Nc5 Bxc5 (5) >> >>00:00:29 10.00 -0.10 14..Nd8 15.Nc3 Rc8 16.Bd3 a6 17.Kf2 >> h6 18.Rac1 b5 19.Be5 (15) >> >>00:01:29 11.00 -0.13 14..Nd8 15.Bd3 Ba4 16.Nd2 Rc8 17.Nc3 >> Bd7 18.Nb3 b6 19.Nb5 Bxb5 20.Bxb5 >> Kf8 21.Rc1 Rc6 (65) >> >>00:04:36 12.00 -0.14 14..Nd8 15.Bd3 Rc8 16.Nc3 Rc6 17.Be5 >> Rb6 (174) >> >>00:12:56 13.00 -0.23 14..Nd8 15.Bd3 Rc8 16.Kf2 Ba4 17.Nd2 >> h5 18.g5 (523) >> >>00:17:54 13.01 -0.22 14..a6 15.Bd3 O-O 16.Rc1 b6 17.h4 >> Rfc8 18.h5 h6 (776) >> >>00:38:16 13.03 -0.19 14..O-O 15.Kd2 Rfc8 16.Rac1 a5 17.Nc3 >> a4 18.Nxa4 Na5 (1184) >> >> >>(On Celeron 500 MHz) >> >> Eelco > >Actually, Fritz's book is weak in this line. >I chose 13...Be7! As I believe it was the best move:) > >Now guess my next move;) > >Terry I think that the question was if analysis of chess programs and not book of chess programs is responsible for 13...Be7 I think that it is obvious that at long time control it is dangerous to use books at this stage of the game and it is better to give top programs a lot of hours to analyze. I believe that the book of chess programs should be dynamic and when the time control is longer they should use smaller book because their probability to find better moves than book moves is bigger. I do not understand the decision of programmers to use the same book for all time controls. A good book should not include only moves but also a number that tells the computer at what time control to use the move. Uri
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