Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 04:00:55 04/05/01
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On April 04, 2001 at 17:24:59, John Merlino wrote: >On April 04, 2001 at 16:46:50, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>On April 04, 2001 at 13:59:28, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On April 04, 2001 at 07:40:13, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>On April 04, 2001 at 06:36:47, Daniel Chancey wrote: >>>> >>>>>The CM program is not weak but it's not a good anti-fritz program. Also the >>>>>personality used is slightly inferior. CM has a small book, no book >>>>>learning, no tablebases. Much of Chessmaster was focused to help human players >>>>>inprove their game. When the best Chessmaster personality is found, a >>>>>match between Deep Fritz under same conditions is necessary. >>>>> >>>>>Castle2000 >>>> >>>>Why all these excuses as to why CM8 plays poorly, you are right it was intended >>>>to be a learning program and it does a heck of a job at just that, but then >>>>again it takes away from the playing strenght, which becomes more and more >>>>obvious. The idea of testing a program in the first place is to test the >>>>strenght of a prog, and you dont see Deep Fritz needing anti CM8, CT14, GT2, >>>>Nimzo8 etc in order to be a dominating factor in the world of cpu chess! >>>>When i tested Gandalf against CM8 gandalf absolutly crushed CM8, so did >>>>Crafty1714, yace and wbnimzo2000b, CM8 simply failed to win a tournament against >>>>any of the above mentioned, this was at long tounament time controls with a >>>>litlle fischer time added to compensate for CM8's poor handling of time. >>>>On my T-bird 1.3ghz 512 ram. >>>>If you manage to find a setting that will match the play of Deep Fritz (which i >>>>doubt) or any other top prog, then it would suggest that CM8 play very >>>>unbalanced if it needs a different setting for each top program. >>>>If CM9 will support book.lrn, tb's etc. have a better book and is bugfree to the >>>>point where it pays to buy the prog, then i think it might be up there with the >>>>other progs! >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>> >>>Jonas, >>> >>>When you did these tests, did you have the patched version? Since the patch was >>>released, nobody has complained about "CM8's poor handling of time". >>> >>>jm >> >>No i must admit i did not run those tournaments with the patch, also i have just >>got the autoplayer up and running with CM8 (now patched) and i am at the moment >>playing a match 40/120 CM8 against Deep Firtz. >>CM8 on an athlon 1.3 ghz and Deep Fritz on an athlon 900 mhz and CM is looking >>good, so maby i'll prove myself wrong. I will do some heavy testing on CM8 >>versus my chessbase army and i will post results here and see how the patched >>ver. is doing :-) >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >Ok, good! Phew! You had me worried.... > >Too bad you don't test for the SSDF, assuming "looking good" means "giving DF a >decent match". ;-) > >jm Yes indeed, CM8 was giving Deep Fritz a decent match, my autoplayer timed out overnight though, in a position that looked like a draw with both programs agreeing that CM8 had the slight advantage of +0.45. i will give it another go 'till i get some games. For CM8 i am using my own settings and a new book, and it all look good. Regards Jonas
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