Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 16:25:47 03/28/98
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On March 28, 1998 at 12:55:09, Didzis Cirulis wrote: >If I had to say some words, Thorsten, I find all this discussion >useless. If you believe a discussion is USELESS just because nothing is PROOFED, than of course it is useless to you. I have a different point of view. IMO the first step in a discussion is, beside meet the other partners of the chat, to meet their point of views. IF - and maybe you could understand my point - in the first 2 posts the ONE side calls for EVIDENCE or PROOFS without understanding the point of the other side, it is IMO a cheap movie. I have never seen people beeing so agressively calling for evidence or proofs at the beginning of a discussion like here in the internet. The last time somebody asked me for PROOF or evidence THIS way was 1995 in paderborn at the championship. It was Ossi Weiner. He got a copy of all my evidence, and was still not confident enough. I have sometimes the idea that the gesture of calling for EVIDENCE has nothing to do with the will to get insight into the problem. I more often have the feeling the endless materialistic calls for FACTS and solid proof and evidence only want to make down the creditbility of the opponent. So - please relax. You can be right 100 more times. I don't fight WINNING games here. If you want to win - do it. But please accept that I only change my opinin when I have data my own. Before I give an opinion about a topic i take long time of research. Normally 1 or 2 months or more saying nothing and only studying the topic and the data it has produced. >You have your opinion about Fritz and others have another. Right. But the difference is: the others offend and insult for unknown reasons. I have no idea why. My feeling says that people behave very shallow here. Shoot the messenger before knowing who he is or what he wants to say. This seems to be a social-group effect in internet. Swimming with the river is very normal and works pretty well. But the acceptance that somebody has a different point of view creates all kinds of "reasons". > IMHO, there may be different performance for programs if they run on >different hardware. And there are so many variants for all those "RAMs >and Mhz-s". If Fritz plays poor chess on your PC, it still proves >nothing, as it may be perfect at other place. As for me, I find Fritz >good, and it plays good if not the best chess on my PC. I guess, if you >have problems with Fritz, use Hiarcs instead for your personal chess >games (I hope you play chess, at least sometimes :-) ) What is this ? Chess ?!? :-) >But I find it meaningless to declare and insist that program is bad, >some programmers are cheaters or so on, even if your experience of the >program is negative... I don't understand what you have against a point of view of a person. As long as I am not insulting anybody or offending people, it is only the little thoughts of an unknown person. If this sight would use my alias instead of my name, it would only be the unimportant opinion of a nobody. I can live with this. I have the feeling some of you cannot. >I will post all games of Tournament II in groups of six games. All I >want is to find the best one among all programs I have and provide some >information for all who are interested in this. If Hiarcs wins this >Tournament, I will be happy with that, as I will know that Hiarcs is the >best, but again, - only on my PC. >Sorry if I have said something offensive. You did not say something offensive. I understand your point of view. I still believe hiarcs-dos is stronger than hiarcs6 engine for fritz, but I will not SHOW EVIDENCE here. It is not my job to present evidence. It is my opinion. Not more. Not less. > >Best regards and good computer chess! :-) Of course. In the moment Fritz5 loses again versus Diep. Adding all the results Diep vs. Fritz5 it seems Diep is stronger than fritz5:-) Or is this something that cannot be true ??? :-) Whatever. > >Didzis Cirulis
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