Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:57:30 04/06/01
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On April 05, 2001 at 22:48:04, Mike Castañuela wrote: > >Taken from ElPais Digital (spain): > >" La tremenda popularidad de los duelos hombre-máquina estimula al Gobierno de >Bahrein. El ruso Vladímir Krámnik, campeón del mundo oficioso, ha recibido una >oferta para enfrentarse a una computadora en octubre al mejor de ocho partidas, >probablemente en ese emirato. Si la acepta, su rival será el vencedor de un >torneo entre ajedrecistas inhumanos en Cadaqués (Girona), este mes. > >En Manama, capital de Bahrein, no quieren dar información sobre la oferta hasta >que se realice el anuncio oficial, y Krámnik mantuvo ayer desconectado su >teléfono móvil, pero dos fuentes próximas a la empresa británica Brain Games, >organizadora del duelo, reconocieron que las negociaciones están muy avanzadas. > >Otro indicio sólido es que Enrique Irazoqui, promotor del prestigioso torneo >anual de Cadaqués para computadoras, ha invitado ya a las tres mejores: Deep >Fritz, Deep Junior y Deep Shredder,así como a Deep Blue, el verdugo de Gari >Kaspárov hace tres años en Nueva York. Sin embargo, la participación de éste >último programa parece imposible: IBM la desmanteló tras el sonoro triunfo sobre >el entonces campeón del mundo y aplica lo aprendido con ella en diversos campos >de la ciencia. Además, Krámnik afirmó en noviembre, nada más destronar a >Kaspárov en Londres bajo la organización de Brain Games, que estudiaría con sumo >interés cualquier oferta para enfrentarse a un adversario de silicio. " > >(Brief resume: Enrique Irazoqui is planning to organize the tournament to decide >the best program (between 3, the Deeps Fritz, Junior and Shredder) which will >contend vs. Kramnik in Bahrein, at date not yet determined. >(Ah, and DeepBlue, but the difficulty of which this is made is obvious)). > >I hope that this match is to be carried (seems very obvious) >with the presence of the programmers, which is essential to make the tourn >valid (ethically speaking). > >Also, a question more: why not more programms at the contest >(e.g. Gambit-Tiger comes to my mind as a very plasible option, mainly by its >style). 1)I also prefer to see Gambittiger. The reason that Enrique prefers to test only these programs is the fact that he believes that other programs are not strong enough or do not support more than one processor. I believe that the top programs on one processor should also play because people need to see if 8 processors(or the maximal number of processors that can practically be used) can give a significant advantage at tournament time control. I prefer to see also Crafty on a better hardware Crafty may be weaker than Deep Fritz, Deep Junior or Deep shredder but it can run also on an alpha machine. 2)Another idea is to combine a lot of PC's for the job of playing kramnik(I am not sure if it is possible) I suggest gandalf for the job because gandalf is a program that does not do preprocessing. The idea is simple: In every position there is a main program that generate a tree with 1000000 leaves(it may be based on all the positions that are 3 plies after the root with some cases of extensions because the number of positions that are 3 plies after the root is less than 1000000) The main program send the positions to 1000000 fast computers(at least pIII800) I do not know if it is possible to find 100000 volunteers who are going to use their computers for chess but I read that people expect to get more than 1000000 volunteers who use their computers for cancer. Suppose that the process of the program takes some seconds. The 1000000 computers use gandalf to calculate the positions that they got for some minutes and return their score for the main program. The main program calculates the best moves based on the scores that it got from gandalf. If sending 1000000 messages is a practical problem the main program may send only 10 messages when in every message there are instructions to send 10 messages and to continue in this way. Uri
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