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Subject: Re: CM8k (& Rebel) Personality (Selectivity) Question

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 10:31:06 04/07/01

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On April 06, 2001 at 23:59:55, Tina Long wrote:

>Hi guys,
>I've done all this before with Rebel Century, I worked for weeks, never formed a
> conclusion, so I went to Japan for some months to forget it all.
>What I say below about CM8k can also be roughly translated to Rebel Century.
>Century has the added benefits (complications) of ONite search syle & the like.
>
>
>Following brief discussion of CM8k personalities in
>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?161873
>I tried a little research.
>
>I'm interested in CM8k playing at 1 hour and 12 hours per move (from the old
>Komputer Korner days) on a P3 1ghz computer.
>
>I was using my Personality "CM128" default CM8k with 128m hash.(selectivity = 6)
>
>I then tried the same with selectivity = 12
>I then tried the same with selectivity = 2
>
>At 12:  Depths reached were 1/11, 2/14 & the like.
>At  2:  Depths reached were 7/9  10/12 & the like.
>
>2: for the same positions, looked MUCH deeper at "brute force" and only SLIGHTLY
>shallower at selective depth than 12:.
>
>While most moves chosen were the same, when they differed I considered the 2:
>were more sound (but then I'm just a dumb human) and more likely to agree with
>Hiarcs732 & Tigger14.
>
>What is the opinion of CCC people on the strength of the decisions made, in very
>long time period games or analysis:
>
>Is it better to have low selectivity and have a MUCH larger safer brute force
>search?
>Is it better to have high selectivity to have a SLIGHTLY deeper selective depth
>search?
>What's the benefit of that 1 or 2 extra ply compared to the risk of not checking
>the full width beyond 1 or 2 plys?
>
>I feel the results will differ depending on the particular positions, & I'd be
>inclined to have high selectivity in the Early & Middle Game & lower selectivity
>in the Endgame.
>
>BUT I can quite easily see why just the opposite might be best.
>
>Your Opinions will be appreciated,
>
>See Ya
>Tina Long

Playing in tournaments this can give strange results because it will change it
mind manny times but tuning the selectivety is a verry important thing for all
programs
But the right selectivety is diferent for all personeltys cq programs.

I hope I wrote something of use

Marc



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