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Subject: Re: NEWS: The match Kramnik-Computer more and more near

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 13:24:06 04/08/01

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On April 08, 2001 at 09:04:32, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 08, 2001 at 08:07:59, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>Here is my guess for the evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gambit1 is probably not better than Deep Fritz on one processor based on Enrique
>>>>>results.
>>>>
>>>>Enrique played 40/40 games.The programs have their own evidence on different
>>>>timecontrols.One example.DeepFritz is on 5min/game 150 Elo Points stronger than
>>>>DeepShredder, on timecontrol 40/120 DeepShredder is 50-70 Elo points stronger
>>>>than DeepFritz.Can you explain that?
>>>
>>>I do not believe it.
>>>I believe that Deep Fritz is better than Deep Shredder in all time controls.
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz is winning Shredder5 at 2 hours per move.
>>>see http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?162151
>>
>>Uri you are a computerchessexpert.But to come with only one game is not a strong
>>argument.Is phalanx stronger than Fritz because he can win some games against
>>Fritz? Why is Shredder winning every official tournament(40/120)and DeepFritz
>>placed behind Shredder? I would say DeepFritz is the best speedchess progam of
>>the world but on tournamenttimecontrols it´s only number three.
>
>I believe that stefan does better opening preperations.
>I decided to use Deep Fritz for my correspondence games and I also use the
>Tigers.
>
>I almost do not use Shredder because I believe that Shredder is worse in the
>early stage of the game and I am not in the endgame.
>
>I analyzed some positions with shredder5 and my impression was that it has not
>more knowledge than Deep Fritz when Deep Fritz is better in tactics.
>
>I find that tactics is important even at correspondence games.
>
>Uri

Fritz6e is very very impressive in my cooresponce game over a long period of
time. I do not know if the Tigers are better here as I only will use Tiger(s) on
start of new game. The few times That I have examined current games with the
Tigers Fritz6e does not think the moves have been best. I cannot make any
assumptions from this tho cause if I cross move between the two it may turn out
that the Tiger's play is more accurate. I have six games going so I dont have
the time for this. Surprising to me is that in general Tiger believes the score
is usually lower that Fritz6e. They have always agreed but by in large they
differ at times by 1/2 to 3/4 of a pawn (_at times_).

Wayne









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