Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:07:55 04/08/01
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On April 08, 2001 at 00:51:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 07, 2001 at 23:31:18, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 07, 2001 at 18:25:44, robert flesher wrote: >> >>>Hello everyone i downloaded Chess Genius 2 last night. >> >>Do you mean to the Dos version or to 2.016? >> >> I must say that anyone >>>who likes genius this is a must. I find the interface that comes with Shredder >>>is rather poor with a slow mouse response. However this interface is fast and >>>simple. For strength i tested it Against good old hiarcs 7.01 30 min each. I >>>expected Hiarcs to destroy genius as this is a old program. After Three games 1 >>>draw two wins for genius. You can imagine my shock. >> >>Did you use one computer for the test. >> >>I ask because I have doubts about tests on one computer because one program may >>be slowed down by a significant factor. >> >> >> I know everyone This is not >>>enough to draw hasty conclusions, although it shows that even old GENIUS2 can >>>hold its own to newer commercial programs. Maybe this shouldnt come as a >>>surprise as it was this same program that beat Kasparov himself in in 1994 at an >>>intel speed tournement. >> >>No >>Genius2.9 that is almost identical to Genius3 won kasparov in 1994. >> >>Kasparov was wrong to think that he is playing Genius2 and I guess that this is >>the reason that he lost. > > > >This kind of reasonning is a mystery to me. > >Can you explain to me why Kasparov (or somebody else) is supposed to have no >problem if it is a known program, and be totally disturbed if it is a slightly >improved version? The _only_ possible way I can see this is an issue is if Kasparov played some games vs Genius 2, and found some "busts". Or mistakes it would make given a certain type of position. And then tried to steer the games into those positions and discovered that it would not "bite". To me, that would seem unethical. And without that reasoning, I can't see how it would make any difference at all which version he was playing... > >Do you think that a human can prepare against all the possible chess positions >if he has the opportunity to test the program? > >Are you going to say that it is a matter of opening preparation? In this case, >do you believe that Lang is so stupid that he would have played with the same >book as the commercial version? > >Anyway, do you think Kasparov would have devoted the time needed to find holes >in Genius book? > >I would bet that even a computer chess expert cannot tell the difference in >playing style between Genius 2 and Genius 3, so I would not buy the "difference >in playing style" explanation either. > > > > Christophe
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