Author: Chessfun
Date: 12:13:27 04/09/01
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On April 08, 2001 at 17:04:51, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >On April 08, 2001 at 12:50:34, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 08, 2001 at 08:07:59, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >> >>> >>>>>>Here is my guess for the evidence. >>>>>> >>>>>>Gambit1 is probably not better than Deep Fritz on one processor based on Enrique >>>>>>results. >>>>> >>>>>Enrique played 40/40 games.The programs have their own evidence on different >>>>>timecontrols.One example.DeepFritz is on 5min/game 150 Elo Points stronger than >>>>>DeepShredder, on timecontrol 40/120 DeepShredder is 50-70 Elo points stronger >>>>>than DeepFritz.Can you explain that? >>>> >>>>I do not believe it. >>>>I believe that Deep Fritz is better than Deep Shredder in all time controls. >>>> >>>>Deep Fritz is winning Shredder5 at 2 hours per move. >>>>see http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?162151 >>> >>>Uri you are a computerchessexpert.But to come with only one game is not a strong >>>argument.Is phalanx stronger than Fritz because he can win some games against >>>Fritz? Why is Shredder winning every official tournament(40/120)and DeepFritz >>>placed behind Shredder? I would say DeepFritz is the best speedchess progam of >>>the world but on tournamenttimecontrols it´s only number three. >> >> >>The 8400 lighting games 1/1 I have played suggest otherwise. >>They suggest strongly that both Gambit 2.0 and Tiger 14.0 are >>stronger at speedchess than Deep Fritz. >> >>The SSDF will hopefully soon be able to release Shredder results >>and I believe you will see infact that Deep Fritz is stronger. >> >>Sarah. > >An woman with such a lot of experience like yours i trust like i trust my >mother.Sarah can you post me your favorite tiger- and gtgames of your tournament >for my tigercollection.I have some games getting from Christophe, so it would be >nice to get some from you. >Best >Thomas From the above 1/1 tourney so far I would choose these 4. Especially interesting is move 23. in the first game remember this is a 1/1 game!. [Event "Lightning 1/1"] [Site "Scarb"] [Date "2001.03.30"] [White "Gambit 2.0"] [Black "Junior 5.0"] [Result "1-0"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Nf3 c5 6. a3 Bxc3+ 7. bxc3 Qa5 8. Bd2 Ne4 9. Qc2 f5 10. Bd3 Nxd2 11. Nxd2 Na6 12. O-O Qc7 13. e4 fxe4 14. Nxe4 g6 15. Qc1 Rf4 16. dxc5 Rf5 17. Qe3 Qd8 18. Nd6 Rxc5 19. Be4 Rb8 20. Rad1 b6 21. Rd3 Ra5 22. Qd4 Nc5 23. Nf7 e5 24. Qxe5 Kxf7 25. Bxg6+ hxg6 26. Rf3+ Kg8 27. Rh3 Ne6 1-0 [Event "Lightning 1/1"] [Site "Scarb"] [Date "2001.04.02"] [White "Gambit 2.0"] [Black "Fritz 6a"] [Result "1-0"] 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. g3 Nbd7 4. Bg2 e6 5. O-O Bd6 6. a3 O-O 7. Nc3 c6 8. e4 dxe4 9. Ng5 e5 10. Ngxe4 exd4 11. Nxd6 dxc3 12. bxc3 Nb6 13. c4 Ne8 14. Nxc8 Rxc8 15. c5 Na4 16. Be3 Nc3 17. Qe1 Nd5 18. Rd1 Qf6 19. Bd4 Qg6 20. c4 Ndf6 21. Qa5 a6 22. Bh3 Rb8 23. f3 Qh5 24. Kg2 h6 25. Qc3 Nc7 26. Rfe1 Rfd8 27. Re5 g5 28. Rde1 Nfe8 29. Bg4 Qg6 30. Bf5 Qh5 31. g4 1-0 [Event "Lightning 1/1"] [Site "Scarb"] [Date "2001.03.30"] [White "Tiger 14.0"] [Black "Junior 6a"] [Result "1-0"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 d5 5. Bg5 c5 6. dxc5 O-O 7. cxd5 Qa5 8. Qd2 Qxc5 9. e4 Ng4 10. h3 Bxc3 11. bxc3 Nf6 12. Bd3 Rd8 13. c4 Nbd7 14. O-O Ne8 15. e5 f6 16. Be3 Qa3 17. Bd4 Nc5 18. Bc2 b6 19. Rfe1 Na6 20. Qh6 Bd7 21. exf6 Nxf6 22. Bxg6 Qd3 23. Bf7+ Kxf7 24. Rxe7+ Kxe7 25. Qxf6+ Ke8 1-0 [Event "Lightning 1/1"] [Site "Scarb"] [Date "2001.03.31"] [White "Fritz 6b"] [Black "Tiger 14.0"] [Result "0-1"] 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bxf6 Qxf6 8. Nd5 Qd8 9. c3 Ne7 10. b4 Nxd5 11. bxc5 Nf4 12. cxd6 Nxg2+ 13. Kf1 Nf4 14. Nxe5 O-O 15. Nxf7 Rxf7 16. Qb3 Bh3+ 17. Ke1 Nxd3+ 18. Bxd3 Qh4 19. dxc7 Qxf2+ 20. Kd1 Kh8 21. Qxb7 Rc8 22. Rf1 Bg4+ 23. Kc1 Qe3+ 24. Kc2 Rfxc7 25. Qb4 Be2 26. Rfd1 a5 27. Qb3 Rd7 28. Kb2 Bxd1 29. Rxd1 Rxd3 30. Rxd3 Qxd3 31. c4 0-1 Sarah.
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