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Subject: Re: Positional scores in Eval()

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 15:28:58 04/09/01

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On April 09, 2001 at 18:21:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 09, 2001 at 17:08:49, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 09, 2001 at 16:49:21, Normand M. Blais wrote:
>>
>>>On April 09, 2001 at 16:21:56, Andrei Fortuna wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>positional score > 2 PAWN_VALUE. And that will hurt my quiescence and my
>>>>futility pruning if I assume that 2*PAWN_VALUE is max positional score. It all
>>>>boils down to the magnitude of the positional scores versus pawn value, I think
>>>>I have to choose either to keep big bonuses and turn futility off (or set a
>>>>bigger margin for futility but in that case it would make futility more
>>>>inefficient) or keep small bonuses and enjoy the reductions I get from futility
>>>>and quiescence.
>>>
>>>What if you multiply the value of the material by 10 (i.e. pawn = 1000 Knight =
>>>3000 Bishop = 3000 Rook = 5000 Queen = 10000 ) and keep the positional score as
>>>it is.
>>>
>>>N.M.B.
>>
>>then his program will volunteerly
>>accept a pawn and get mated a few moves later.
>>
>>A good test position is DIEP - crafty wmccc2000:
>>
>>e2-e4     (2:00:00,2:00:00)  book
>>c7-c5     (2:00:00,1:59:19)
>>g1-f3     (2:00:00,1:59:19)  book
>>d7-d6     (2:00:00,1:59:06)
>>d2-d4     (2:00:00,1:59:06)  book
>>c5xd4     (2:00:00,1:58:48)
>>f3xd4     (1:59:59,1:58:48)  book
>>g8-f6     (1:59:59,1:58:21)
>>b1-c3     (1:59:59,1:58:21)  book
>>a7-a6     (1:59:59,1:58:02)
>>c1-g5     (1:59:59,1:58:02)  book
>>e7-e6     (1:59:59,1:57:44)
>>f2-f4     (1:59:59,1:57:44)  book
>>d8-b6     (1:59:59,1:57:29)
>>d1-d2     (1:59:59,1:57:29)  book
>>b6xb2     (1:59:59,1:57:16)
>>a1-b1     (1:59:59,1:57:16)  book
>>b2-a3     (1:59:59,1:56:53)
>>f4-f5     (1:59:59,1:56:53)  book
>>b8-c6     (1:59:59,1:56:28)
>>f5xe6     (1:59:59,1:56:28)  book
>>f7xe6     (1:59:59,1:55:59)
>>d4xc6     (1:59:59,1:55:59)  book
>>b7xc6     (1:59:59,1:55:43)
>>e4-e5     (1:59:59,1:55:43)  book
>>d6xe5     (1:59:59,1:51:36)
>>g5xf6     (1:59:59,1:51:36)  book
>>g7xf6     (1:59:59,1:50:43)
>>c3-e4     (1:59:59,1:50:43)  book
>>f8-e7     (1:59:59,1:46:38)
>>f1-e2     (1:59:59,1:46:38)  book
>>
>>Here crafty played O-O?? it castled straight into the mate here by
>>doing that. O-O is a big blunder. Diep wmccc2000 played h5 there.
>>
>>Let's have a look whether current version also does that...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>best regards,
>>Vincent
>
>
>If you will post it in a standard machine readable form rather than in
>that e2-e4 gobbledygook, I will try it.
>
>:)

K:\diep>type forbob.fen
r1b1k2r/4b2p/p1p1pp2/4p3/4N3/q7/P1PQB1PP/1R2K2R b Kkq -
h5! o-o??

Note you should also checkout the operating time your operator
needed. Cool man, but should not operate crafty. Learned a lot
about computerchess i guess in that tournament.

You need an operator who can operate it at 7 0 too !






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