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Subject: Re: Computer Results and Comments

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 12:29:57 04/11/01

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On April 11, 2001 at 14:51:45, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>I disagree.
>
>What I see is a discontent for people posting results under headers that suggest
>they just found the solution to the world, the universe and everything. Very
>often with over-enthousiastic screams in capitals that program X clearly beat
>the **** out of the other.
>
>In most cases those claims are made in full innocence, out of sheer enthousiasm,
>but not true, and a lot of those people can't handle the fact that not everyone
>shares his or her enthousiasm. Those threads are prone to become flames.
>
>One remark about those capitals: pointing at the thread Marcus started: on
>Internet it is common knowledge that capitals are a substitute for shouting,
>generally accepted as quite rude, even if it wasn't intended that way. It's a
>simple thing you can avoid.
>
>
>Playing engine tournaments or test sets are generally a lot of fun for the
>player him- or herself, results may or may not be interesting, and comment can
>or will follow. In nearly all "objective" threads like "my xxx-tourney
>completed" the reactions can be classified as:
>- yoy forgot to mention time controls
>- which settings did you use
>- where can we download the games
>- there aren't enough games of statistically sound conclusions, because.....
>
>Threads like "IT IS NOW CLEAR JANGJANG 5.45 IS OVER ELO 3010!!!!!!!!!!" with in
>the body the simple letters "NT" or "JANGJANG BEAT FLOTZ 2,5-1,5!!!!!!!!!""
>indeed will get the occasional strong reactions - as meant before.
>
>
>Remember that if you take the time to run your
>
>>own tourneys or tests, and then take the time to post your results here at this
>>forum for everyones benefit
>
>as you say it in your message, you mostly take your *own* time because you like
>it, and the benefit for *others* -if any- diminishes rapidly if we just saw five
>postings in a row about the last Schredder-Fritz tournament.
>
>Please keep your hobby for your own enjoyment. It's worth it *very* much.
>It's also nice to share your hobby. Do that here without suggesting you just
>invented the wheel.
>
>And if you want cheers to your dedication for other, deploy activities only if
>it was specifically asked for.
>The notion that people here are waiting for your or my postings can be a
>disappointing one.
>
>Good chess - and no computer crashes, my friend.
>Live well and prosper.
>
>J.

I agree with the above, but when you have objections then there are different
ways of making them, and being rude is not gonna help, what i think is the point
of this whole post is that diagreement is fine, but be civil and grown up in
your critique, dont bash someone for not being a hardcore beta tester with 25
years of experience, tell X that 2.5-1.5 score might look different when a
hundred games is completed and do it in a nice way, share your experience and
make it a point to enlighten newbies instead of, tearing them apart.

Regards
Jonas



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